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originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: sparrowstail
This in no way is meant to ridicule. If it comes across that way, please take me to task and accept my apologies in advance.
What does one mean by "higher consciousness"? Is this the metaphysical form, where you "evolve" you soul via multiple lifetimes and living according to a plan? If so, I get it and no further explanation is needed. If not, please elaborate so I can understand.
Beyond that, striving to be a good person can be a lame cop out. Every sociopath on the planet is always striving to be a better person. Just ask them after they screw up and they'll tell you. The difference is actually being mindful of lifes decisions.
That, once done by habit, will automatically make you a better person. People who are not mindful tend to be selfish without realizing it.
Or, to put it another way: you cannot expect to develop a consciousness without exercising via conscious acts. Be aware of what you do and that around you, and then act mindfully.
Once you do that, who cares about the rest?
originally posted by: ipsedixit
a reply to: Kashai
Science is more cumbersome than meditation. What is wrong with science is a very big question but a symbol for the problem might be the history of the number system. At every turn where the number system has become inadequate a new number system has been invented with its own rules to handle issues that the previous system couldn't handle logically.
This brings up philosophical issues. Philosophy itself is a more fundamental way of thinking about persons and their situation, existence in nature.
Meditation is more fundamental than philosophy because it goes to the heart of the matter, revealing mind in its most fundamental expression.
Remember that all knowledge, of whatever sort, is derived from mind in its most fundamental expression. From that, all other mental manifestations flow and all subsidiary knowledge finds its place in the context of the fundamental expression of the mind.
A "Spiritual Atheist" is ANYONE who does not believe in the literal existence of mythical God, but still considers his/her self to be spiritual.
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originally posted by: Kashai
a reply to: ipsedixit
My first education was with respect to the Taino culture, Caribbean member of an indigenous culture.
originally posted by: sparrowstail
Well, not that long ago the human race were barbarians who raped and pillaged routinely, now we have moved to a different paradigm, one where we have more basic stability and security. One where we rarely miss a meal, or sleep in cold wet conditions. Our health and well being are guaranteed. This all frees up more time to devout oneself to more intellectual pursuits that occupy different parts of the brain, thus changing our frequency of brain activity. Meditation and yoga or tai chi stimulate parts of the brain that we still don't fully understand. Sincerely, there must be more to our potential as thoughtful, peaceful, co-existing creatures than what we've achieved to date. Einstein was pseudo-science when he was creating and explaining his thought experiments. Science can still emerge from an ordinary idea. You sound so confident and sure in your outlook and interpretation of reality as we can limitedly interpret it; with our narrow sense frequency bandwidths and bumbling digits. Bravo
Just being cheeky
originally posted by: TheOneElectric
There are a few problems in your OP; however, those problems are not bad. They actually open up a new set of philosophical and spiritual questions.
Does striving to be a good person lead to a higher consciousness? That's a difficult question to ask based upon the fact that we are indoctrinated in a western view of thinking that comes to the eventuality of A or B, light or dark, up or down. Maybe, just maybe, people are beginning to see grey. There is another mode of thinking where objects, motives, answers, and questions themselves can be true, false, both true and false, and neither true nor false. It's a new and interesting idea that utilizes mathematics in order to conceptualize eastern philosophy to the extent that it is no longer contradictory mysticism, but an extremely logical mode of thinking
What is good depends on your life experiences in this entire Universe. In a dualist view, we come to an accidental "oh no moment". Whether it be God or Science, the answer comes out to be the same inevitability in Western thought. If a God exists that is omnipotent and exists with omniscience, one beyond space and time, then it necessarily follows that he knows all of your actions and why you will take them. You are locked and loaded from the moment of creation, and you're technically waiting to be that person who goes to heaven or that person who goes to hell due to the way God dictated the universe. You are bound to fate and the universal flow of causality. Our limited understanding of the fundamental forces does us no better here. If we go from the assumption that there was an initial expansion that we like to call the "Big Bang" everything is technically the same, just without the hell and heaven end result. Example: If I knock over a cup, we don't expect it to wobble and then shoot 5000 feet into the air. That's asinine and any toddler can identify why it won't be the case. We are bound by rules of kinetic exchange and energy transfer. So to is the beginning dictating the end in the initial expansion explanation. Those first particles that bounced off of one another dictated where the next would bounce, and so forth. This results in an eventuality of "fate by physics" where from the moment you are born to the moment you die your actions are dictated by the original expansion and how energy diced to bounce off of other forms of energy in a calculable way.
The west = fate
Through science and religion, the west = fate
What is Good when there is only fate? What is higher consciousness, when there is only fate? Why do you ask such question, and why do I attempt to answer? By western standards, it's merely the rules that everything follow. We are in causalities flow, and no matter how complicated we may seem, we are just set rendering of either God or an inert Universe. Good has no meaning because there is obviously no choice. Calvin, Aquinas, Martin Luther, and others of the faith wrestled with this problem. Good is what God said when he started reality's largest puppet show. Good is what a thinking universe says about itself when it had no choice to do so in the first place. And, higher consciousness, that's more or less a joke outside of one being. The Universe observing itself after 13billion years or a God. That's the only higher consciousness in the west.
However, if we shift our thinking from this A or B dualism, something amazing happens. God, Spirituality, Science, Love, and Life all have more robust and complicated meanings. There is a sense of free will and possibility if A doesn't lead to B which leads to C. If A can lead to Z and Z sometimes to E, then we experience a world and reality that is neither good nor bad, right nor wrong, or opened or closed. We live in a quantum state where in which an almost infinite number of possibilities may exist. We are neither 1 nor 0, but everything in between. We live in a quantum state within the eastern modes of thought. Dualism serves nothing more, in my opinion, than to create simplistic minds that fail the test that our eyes set before us.
In my mode of thought, being a good person does create higher consciousness. However, don't mistake my good for your good. Good to me is a person who sees this for what it really is...
Life is but a state of mind. None of this is real. In the end, there is but one truth. There is only self. A good person to me is the one that sees beyond the veil of illusion to the truth of the matter. There is only self interacting with self in this ongoing circle of growth. Why? I don't know why. I only know that self does it. That answer is far beyond me and any other limited perspective of self. Self has this weird way about it that encourages a transcendent view, yet "codes" against the view becoming too accurate. My good person sees beyond the illusion and acts accordingly. When your enemy becomes your Mother, Father, Brother, Sister, Lover, and Reflection...then my version of "good" is met.
Don't mistake me for projecting a holier than thou voice. I will rise and I will fall. I will fail and I will succeed. My emotions will get the best of me, my intellect will make me arrogant, and my spirituality will cause disconnect with perception. I am a victim, beneficiary, and creator of all of these eventualities.I will be human, and maybe one day I will be more. However, I am just like you. Asking the same questions, living a very similar life. As you are, so am I. I am no better or worse than anyone else in the objective spiritual sense. We simply "are".
However, who am I to tell one man that his fated model of dualism is wrong. Who am I to tell another to let go of everything he holds dear in life to disintegrate the baggage that he's added to its core of simple "I". That's a lot to ask of a man, or tell a man who has grown up in one system of thought. It's even more to do to convince him that it's right.
As for the next progression of human consciousness...well, I believe self will develop larger containers through the mode of transhumanism and the creation of machine integrated human post evolution. I believe that we'll undergo a fundamental change at that point. I don't think that path is necessary or 100% destructive, it's just the path that this self's go around chose for humanity. You'll see in the next 20 years what I speak of. I don't think it will destroy spirituality either, for that is impossible. Nothing we could do could destroy self. It's almost akin to believing that a role in a play could destroy the actor under the mask. We'll process information more readily, understand emotion more readily, and question the nature of our separation in a more educated fashion. Where it goes from there is anyone's guess.
Objectively, there is no righteous life. There are, however, some roads that reach the mountain top faster than others. However, as the saying goes: One mountain, many paths. But, who's to say that longer path is a less worthy path?
There is much to contemplate with self, no?