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originally posted by: Fylgje
a reply to: gentledissident
This is a greed fest at everyone elses expense. It isn't right. This system is broken. When a person has to take on 2-3 jobs and still live in poverty while the companies that they work for rake in record profits,-it is a failed system that has hurt humanity.
I'd like to see some of you support a family on what you pay. Either you don't understand or you don't care. Which is it?
originally posted by: Fylgje
Not accusing anyone here of this, but, too many business owners take home too much money and pay their employees too little, AND charge too much for their products. Some don't just want to make a good profit anymore, they wanna reach in the consumers pocket and clean'em out. Greed.
But it's not all the business owners fault. Wall Street speculators are to blame for inflating everything. It's just a free-for-all these days. When I was younger, I worked for my parents a little as they owned a few business', so I'm familiar with how gas stations, restaurant and hotels work. Capitalism is good as long as it's in the right hands.
originally posted by: gentledissident
It's our fault that business has such unrealistic regulation and taxation. We are the government. We allow it to happen. IMHO, business should only be regulated for safety and pollution just like an individual. We can't say we have a free market economy and then tell the economy how to behave. Our nation demands capitalism. It should be allowed to have it along with all its shortcomings.
originally posted by: squittles
originally posted by: Fylgje
Not accusing anyone here of this, but, too many business owners take home too much money and pay their employees too little, AND charge too much for their products. Some don't just want to make a good profit anymore, they wanna reach in the consumers pocket and clean'em out. Greed.
But it's not all the business owners fault. Wall Street speculators are to blame for inflating everything. It's just a free-for-all these days. When I was younger, I worked for my parents a little as they owned a few business', so I'm familiar with how gas stations, restaurant and hotels work. Capitalism is good as long as it's in the right hands.
This can happen - just not for very long, as a competitor will come along, who'll pay the employees better (and thus get better employees), and/or accept less profit, so can provide the same or better products/services for less cost, and that "greedy" company will either have to adapt to the competitor or fail - it's survival of the fittest.
Instead, with the help of politicians, they bring in H1B's, open the borders wide to cheap labor and create Trade Pacts with foreign nations that are an antithesis to our own principles as a nation. But hey, we'll over look that when there are profits to be made since we are not paying for it, just don't bring it here.
originally posted by: JiggyPotamus
Then those who come before them in the line, seeing that massive profits are being made, are going to raise their prices also most likely. It is a never-ending cycle of greed if the prices are raised for no reason, and actually there is probably only one person to blame. One can easily trace the price increase back to Wall Street in many instances.
originally posted by: jacobe001
How will I as a consumer know where all this Chinese Chicken is being used, such as McDonalds, Burger King, Wendies and mom and pop restaurants an so on. How will I as the consumer know where this chicken is used to make secondary products in the grocery store such as soups, pizzas, chicken patties and so on?
It is all about the consumer and nothing about the trade pacts put in by lobbyists first? Fine, then you will have no problem in stopping these Trade Pacts because according to you, it is the consumer and not the trade pacts that decide what the consumer buys.
You are making the same mistake many others make that is destroying this country.
Short Term Profits and Gains RIGHT NOW, over Long Term Gains and Stability for THIS Country.
So shipping a good chunk of our technological know how, manufacturing plants and so on is to strengthen Commie China is good for the USA?
originally posted by: stormson
i bet all those time business boomed, you passed that on to the customer too. you dropped prices, right?
how about when your workers went above and beyond, i bet you gave them all bonuses, right?
costs are passed on to the consumer, but profits passed on to your pocket.
And no, a janitor or greeter at Walmart shouldn't be making $14hr, as the market doesn't justify it.
originally posted by: Chickensalad
Im going to throw my hat in on the side that the OP does in fact see the customers as a way to offset increases. I also agree that people used to go into business because they loved what they did. Of course money is a factor but being your own boss and providing the customer with the service you feel they deserve is an even bigger factor.
Truth is, my area is full of small businesses that refuse to pass on increase expe ses onto us customers. They absorb them and do there damnedest locally to fight such increases. I know this because I actually know a large portion of them.
The bussiness practices you speak of are more along the lines of Bane Capitol or the local walmart/large corps. You bleed a bussiness for maximum profit and when you no longer see the profit you like, you sell.
In some places $14/hour will provide you enough to get exactly a cardboard box and maybe a coverall suit and some processed junk food to go along with your bus-fare and/or shoes to walk.
originally posted by: Daughter2
Business owners don't charge based on their cost, they charge based on demand. Your decision to pass on that extra tax increase is based on whether or not you will lose customers.
To change them or suggest it should be changed wholesale will benefit some. A very specific 'some' by demographics and pretty much city folk. Fine and dandy, and to each their own ...except it's not when the Feds do it. It's everyone. Whether it works or breaks people, depending on zip code.
originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
So the governors could have their annual Hawaiian Team-Building Convention Week and discuss/decide a 'percentage' of appropriate wage increase. (Or, we could skip the Convention Week and just have the POTUS say "raise the minimum GOING wage in your state....Say, well, hmmm. ... twenty five percent.) At $7.35 that would equal a bit under $10/hour.
If the local going 'minimum wage' is $10, then it goes up to $12.50.
That's a great idea!!