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originally posted by: Bloomoone
Climate Change policy suffers from a credibility problem. It might not be as much the credibility of scientific reports as it is the credibility of the individuals involved... namely politicians on an election year. You can dog on the Climate Change policy all you want. This post isn't about the policy, its about finding the solution to a problem. You're problem solvers right?
Lets say for instance that the Climate Change problem is genuine. At the end of the day, what's the real solution to the problem?
The Problem: Elevated Levels of Carbon Dioxide
Source of Problem: Too numerous to name here, but there are plenty of sources (exhaust, cow farts, etc.).
The Solution: Everybody plant a bunch of trees! I'm not kidding.
Thinking back to high school science... (keeping it simple here so that the politicians might understand it too) trees absorb carbon dioxide and in turn produce oxygen. Why couldn't we give nature a shot at fixing the problem?
Maybe the problem has been the destruction of trees all over the world over the years (especially in the Amazon). Maybe we should help to plant what has been lost. This place would certainly look a lot better with more trees.
Important note: I do not believe that we should stop harvesting trees (economicsustainability reasons). I just believe that maybe we need to be replacing them twice as fast as we're harvesting them.
ATS'ers, what say ye? Fire up the ole thinkers! What's the real solution?
originally posted by: dieseldyk
a reply to: C0bzz
Nice cherry picking on my post. What is important about Bill Gates is the equation he comes up with.
CO2 = number of people x services per person x energy per service x Co2 per unit energy
see the video here www.youtube.com... about 2:15
And the fact is is that people want to believe that only dealing with energy per service and CO2 per unit energy will solve the mythical CO2 problem. While Malthusians are concentrating on reducing the number of people and greedy banksters, the IMF, The World Bank and others are concentrating on marketization of services. All I did was highlight everything in the most uncomfortable way I could think off. What I said was indeed insane because these luciferian/bankster/UN/crony capitalists/whateveryouwanttocallums are indeed psychotic, psychopathic, sociopathic and insane. But when you stand back at look at it TPTB are nothing more than middle men. They are money changers, they print fiat counterfeit currency, they transport goods, run pipelines and power grids, they trade on the stock market, then they use their influence to further their positions through crony capitalism and employ the militaries of various nations to do their bidding. They are a shell, a facade and nothing more, but they are killers, murderers, rapists and pillagers. To believe that TPTB would permit any tech to be implemented that would exclude them is sadly naive and laughable. So if someone asks for solutions to the CO2 problem, then let's be realistic and look at the solutions that are likely to be implemented, like China's forced abortion and one child policies. I believe Robert Malthus was wrong in 1800 when he spouted his nonsense about the the world being overpopulated. He was wrong then and Malthusians are wrong now.
Anyway I differ with you on the point on Thorium reactors, they are developed and militarized. Just because you are not being told about them doesn't mean they don't exist. And the Thorium tech is not that complicated. There is nothing magical about a self regulating thorium reaction in a salt bath. There have been numerous documentaries on TV over the years that piece it all together.
Thorium reactors can run cars 250 000 miles on a few ounces of thorium. A LENR/ Cold Fusion reactor can run a house on a generator the size of a fridge. Those two technologies alone can replace the electrical grid. With the excess power, flying cars are feasible and so roads made of asphalt and concrete are no longer necessary thus reducing thermal mass heating. Not to mention no more oil refineries, pipelines or the necessary military to protect these assets. Sewage treatment and sewer lines are also no longer necessary because excess power can be used to heat or cook waste into compost. Excess power can free people from TPTB because basically every point where a middle man has inserted himself with the help of crony capitalism so as to extract excessive profit will be rendered obsolete. And yes TPTB will kill people to keep what they have. Here look at this www.abovetopsecret.com... and tell me the tech is not out there and that people are not being killed over it.
If you want to save the planet then you better come to grips with a few hard facts about how the world really works, otherwise your idealism is going to be used for someone else's ends.
IF all this global-climate-weather IS man-made, then the only solution is to;
Take control of the planet
Eliminate all forms of government
Kill everyone over the age of 30
Sterilyze 95% of the remaining population
Eliminate all coal plants, electrical plants, nuclear plants
Return to a purely agricultural-based society
Cars only for the elite (electric, of course)
The core idea of space-based solar has been in development since the 1970s: Place solar panels on a satellite, beam the collected energy to a receiver on Earth, and convert the beam to electricity.
Collecting sunlight in the vacuum of space means that the solar panels can harvest our star's intense energy without losses due to atmospheric absorption.
A satellite in geosynchronous orbit can be exposed to sunlight around the clock with no interruptions due to cloud cover. And from orbital heights, the power stream can be redirected quickly to places with the greatest need.
With funding from the European aerospace group EADS-Astrium, Sweeney's team has been studying the best way to beam power from a solar-collecting satellite to the ground. So far, the group favors a narrowly focused laser in infrared wavelengths.news.nationalgeographic.com...
A small US-based company called Solar Roadways are developing a solar road surface that, if installed nationwide, has the potential to produce more renewable energy than the entire country uses. In fact, they’ve actually already developed a working prototype that’s been installed in a parking lot, and they’re now crowdsourcing funds in order to tweak the design and move towards production.
Solar Roadways, which was started by Scott and Julie Brusaw in 2006, designed and developed hexagonal glass solar panels studded with LED lights that could be installed on a variety of surfaces such as roads, pavements and playgrounds. These panels would more than pay for themselves and would benefit both businesses and homeowners as the energy generated from driveways and parking lots could be used to power buildings, and any excess can be sold back to the grid.
The panels also contain heating elements to melt ice and snow so are ideal in winter conditions, and LEDs to make road lines and signs which have been previously shown to reduce night time accidents. The surface could also be used to charge electric vehicles as oppose to fossil fuels, and future technology could even allow for charging whilst driving via mutual induction panels. Amazingly, the team also found that car headlights can produce energy in the panels, so cars driving around at night would be producing some electricity.
Read more at www.iflscience.com...
A newly announced solar powered carport offers drivers of electric cars and plug in hybrids a way to avoid the greenhouse gas emissions from charging off largely fossil-fuel powered grids.
The iSolar carport, with roof made entirely of solar panels has been announced to coincide with the launch of BMW's i8 plug-in hybrid vehicle in Los Angeles. Southern California looks a particularly promising market for the iSolar. With no ice and snow to protect cars from most houses have dispensed with garages, but shade is still important, as the bright sunlight can make cars unpleasantly hot, and fade interiors over time.
By using solar panels to make up the roof, rather than adding them on top, BMW have kept the carport light enough that the support structure can be made of bamboo, further burnishing the iSolar's environmental credentials. When the car is in use, or fully charged, electricity from the panels is sent into the house.
Read more at www.iflscience.com...
originally posted by: Lanisius
The only true solution is for those who believe people are the root cause of "climate change" is for those very same people to self suicide. They'd be the planet's savior and be immortalized. The sooner they start the sooner they can save the planet.