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Sandy Hook Forensic Evidence

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posted on May, 11 2014 @ 03:58 PM
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originally posted by: SubTruth
You say Adams mom bought him guns because of her rural republican roots...........REALLY. Lot's of stars and flags I see it is shame.


You know, I … *long sigh* … nvm.

Please read this post.

 




a reply to: notquitesure


Yes, we do have ‘similar’ (and notice that I do not say comparable) information regarding the pronouncements that were made at the school.

They were made via cardiac monitor.

The names of the people who made pronouncements at the school are

  • Bernie Meehan (Danbury Assistant Fire Chief),
  • John Reed (Tactical Paramedic), and
  • Matthew Cassavechia (Director of Emergency Services at Danbury).


They were acting under the medical-legal authority of Dr. Pat Broderick, of Danbury Hospital.

More info below in the footnotes, but I thought people may like to see this, a request for a cell-phone location ping \\




——————FOOTNOTES——————
 

() Confusingly, there is also a Detective Patrick Meehan (Central District Major Crime Squad -- listed on page 467 as being the individual who was personally responsible for photography the scene at Sandy Hook Elementary School)

() In addition, there is also a Jason Cassavechia (one of the CT State Troopers who was “assigned” to a victim's family)*

() Not to be confused with Newtown School Superintendent John Reed. Something else interesting is that another first on scene, Joseph Voket, is the cousin of John Voket, Associate Editor of the Newtown Bee, and the person behind the lens of the first video showing the “chaos” at the scene of Sandy Hook Elementary on the morning of the shooting, before the rest of the media arrived § (see below)

(§) Dec 14, 2012 YouTube video by the Newtown Bee reporter and Associate Editor, John Voket


(*) Out of respect for their privacy, I will not include the family's name.

(\\) While it is redacted, it is believed that these are for Ryan Lanza's roomates. What is interesting is that the officer in Hoboken who was assigned the task of initiating the search with AT&T was given the roomates’ cell phone numbers from … The Connecticut State Police.

() This is more along the lines of what we do have:






~Constantine

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posted on May, 11 2014 @ 04:32 PM
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a reply to: 3mperorConstantinE

When you have the time, could you offer some thoughts on the discrepancy I found in location and appearance of NL's body?

www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on May, 11 2014 @ 04:46 PM
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originally posted by: CornShucker
a reply to: 3mperorConstantinE

When you have the time, could you offer some thoughts on the discrepancy I found in location and appearance of NL's body?

www.abovetopsecret.com...

The part about the shotgun's location near the bed?



posted on May, 11 2014 @ 04:51 PM
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a reply to: 3mperorConstantinE


Thanks for those details. We have 3 people inside tasked with making pronouncements. How many others were inside attempting to save lives? The assumption would be that there are mass casualties and the place would be crawling with paramedics, right?

I noted in the documents you supplied that one paramedic was interviewed by 4 police officers with 2 lawyers present. Maybe this is S.O.P., but it stuck out to me. Are there similar documents detailing interviews done with the presumably dozens of others who were in that school in an effort to save lives?

Again, you wouldn't presume that everyone was dead and only send in a few people to check for vitals, would you? Wouldn't you assume that there were lives to save and send in as many qualified people as possible to accomplish this task? And as quickly as possible, as time is of the essence in a shooting incident.



posted on May, 11 2014 @ 05:01 PM
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For those interested:

HIPAA Info for Law Enforcement




HIPAA permits the disclosure of Protected Health Information (“PHI”) to law enforcement officials in specified circumstances:


  • Pursuant to legal process and as otherwise required by law;

  • To a limited degree, for purposes of identifying and locating certain classes of persons;


  • As necessary to alert law enforcement to the commission and circumstances of a crime.


“Law enforcement” is broadly conceived by HIPAA. It includes any governmental agency or official authorized to investigate, prosecute or conduct an inquiry into a potential violation of law.



posted on May, 11 2014 @ 05:12 PM
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a reply to: SubTruth

jesus christ, it's called commentary..

it's not stated as fact...

any excuse, eh'?
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posted on May, 11 2014 @ 05:14 PM
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a reply to: notquitesure

Yes, I would assume that there should have been MANY more paramedics in the building.
Also, that one guy, John Reed, had to travel all the way from Danbury?
27 people with 20 of them being children most definitely qualifies as a “mass casualty incident”.
And plus, if they were declared dead, why the need to have all of those people outside setting up colored tarps an hour later?

Not many interviewees had lawyers with them.
I know that Trooper Cario and (Newtown School Resource) Officer Penna “checked vitals” on some of the victims.

Also did you catch that ONLY the victims with non-head wounds were checked via the cardiac machine?
Also their EKG printouts were left near them.

These were (according to the official story) recent fatalities.

Nancy Lanza has no EKG printout, and no mention of any cardiac machine being brought upstairs.
She was not a “recent fatality”. I can't be sure, but I would think checking the 52 year old for a pulse, along with her temperature would be a reasonable way of pronouncing her ‘clinically dead’ — with her having rigor and 4x gun shot wounds to the left eye, eyelid, outer-orbital region and temple.

Do paramedics routinely hook up AED leads to a 5hr old corpse at an active (not-yet-cleared) crime scene and presenting orbitofacial disfigurement + obvious severe brain trauma?
And if so, why not do that with the (recent) child victims?

~C
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posted on May, 11 2014 @ 05:16 PM
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originally posted by: 3mperorConstantinE

originally posted by: CornShucker
a reply to: 3mperorConstantinE

When you have the time, could you offer some thoughts on the discrepancy I found in location and appearance of NL's body?

www.abovetopsecret.com...

The part about the shotgun's location near the bed?


I think I see my mistake. At first glance, I took them to mean they found NL's body on the floor next to the bed...

Thanks!



posted on May, 11 2014 @ 06:30 PM
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a reply to: 3mperorConstantinE

With almost every document posted, I have an a-ha moment where things don't seem to add up. Often, a detail tickles my brain and stands in contradiction to something that I read earlier. Unfortunately, it's not always possible to track down the original details.

I have read so much information about this case - only wish I had documented more of what I read.



posted on May, 11 2014 @ 06:50 PM
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originally posted by: Q33323
Good info here, but it all makes me want to wretch.

To whomever is responsible for this constant deceit: KHARMA WILL BE A BITCH!


If Karma existed, then George W. Bush and Co. would be rotting in a prison with a life sentence for their role in 9/11. So when is "Karma" coming for them, considering that it has been over 12 years since the event ?

If Karma existed, the Rothschild's, Rockefellers and Co. would all be hanging from a noose. Yet they continue to live the high life at our expense. The only people that can put a stop to this is US, the people. If we wait for a non-existent entity Karma] to help us, then the false-flag attacks just continue and the people responsible face no punishment.

Why hasn't Karma done anything yet, and what is it waiting for ?



posted on May, 11 2014 @ 06:55 PM
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Is there documentation showing us how many people in total are witnesses to the actuall bodies and crime scene?



posted on May, 11 2014 @ 07:03 PM
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I've been pondering something said earlier, someone mentioned no mention of the 'Masked' shooter, no mask was found.
Do we have any source from where the Mask line came from?
The reason I ask, MASK is such a vague term, was it a ski mask? Scream mask? clown mask?
I don't think we have a description of the mask (if we do ignore the next few lines)

I'm just thinking if you saw a shooter wearing a mask you would describe said mask as much as you could,
like it was completely (name a colour), or however you see it.
Just saying Mask Implies you weren't even sure what you saw combine that with the weird photoshopped photographs of Adam, I'd guess it was possible it was his face and/or mentioned to fit that narrative.

Just throwing that out there. All subjecture

MODS:If anything I have wrote is regarded off topic or against T&C's, please delete my post rather than the thread etc.
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posted on May, 11 2014 @ 07:49 PM
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originally posted by: FuZe7
Is there documentation showing us how many people in total are witnesses to the actuall bodies and crime scene?


Hard to say exactly, considering one of the "witnesses" who even went on TV with his heart pouring out, was seen laughing and joking with the other people around him, not realising he was being filmed, but it wasn't going live. Once the action call was given, he instantly change his facial expression from laughing and joking to a dead serious look and poured on the emotion. Much like how a news reader makes a light hearted comment for one story, but then instantly puts on the "serious face" as the next story is a less light-hearted. This guy was, in my opinion, a paid actor. Why do we have paid actors posing as parents of slain children ? Why, because it's all part of the cover up. He played his ROLE, he would of been financially rewarded for his ROLE. But who is it that plays a role.........an actor !

No genuinely grieving parent on this planet would be cracking jokes until the "action" call came. NO PARENT. If you genuinely lost your child in this fashion, you would NOT be cracking jokes for a LONG time. You would NOT be laughing and smiling "off camera" but then go as serious as possible once the camera went live. This is yet another of their lies, and I would like to know a lot more about this guy, and his REAL background.



posted on May, 11 2014 @ 08:26 PM
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a reply to: Taggart

it was from an interview with one of the children...a boy, i believe...he described the shooter as wearing a mask. as far as i know, he didn't give a detailed description of the mask, just that the shooter was wearing one.

to this day, there has been no documentation of the recovery of this mask.



posted on May, 11 2014 @ 08:31 PM
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a reply to: DarksideOz

this is just one of the things that makes ATA's theory at least somewhat plausible....if newtown is like Albuquerque, in the show "in plain sight", and it's an out of the way repository for WITSEC protectees, there's no way they're gonna put those people on TV, as it would put them in danger....so they use stand-ins for the real families.

it sounds really weird on the face of it, but when you factor in how WITSEC works, it seems to be within the realm of possibility...



posted on May, 11 2014 @ 08:40 PM
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a reply to: Daedalus

Wasn't it also said that he had a mask by one of the adults too?

See if I can go find that.

So the other account of the mask is from the famed interview with the "principle" at the school that day.
The one that has since been scrubbed off the net
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posted on May, 11 2014 @ 08:52 PM
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a reply to: Sremmos80

Natalie Hammond:




posted on May, 11 2014 @ 08:58 PM
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a reply to: Daedalus

Just out of curiosity, does anyone have any factual information to contribute that would even prove that WITSEC places more than 1 family in the same town OR that anyone in the program was in Newtown?



posted on May, 11 2014 @ 09:01 PM
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a reply to: SMOKINGGUN2012

if we had access to that information, that would mean anyone could get it, completely defeating the point and purpose of the program.

it isn't unrealistic to posit the theory, as multiple families living in proximity would have no idea the others were in the program, because if you're in, you don't advertise it.



posted on May, 11 2014 @ 09:25 PM
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originally posted by: SMOKINGGUN2012
a reply to: Daedalus
Just out of curiosity, does anyone have any factual information to contribute that would even prove that WITSEC places more than 1 family in the same town OR that anyone in the program was in Newtown?


First off, there are actually several different Witness Relocation Programs currently in use.
Now, with respect to the one you are referring to (WITSEC), the answer is:
———> no way

When someone is made to ‘disappear’, it is through a minimum of 3 separate throwaway identities, which are used for the multiple legs of their ‘journey into the ether’.

So unless their agency contact is compromised (which is always a slim, but legit concern), then no, you can't find this information out or else it would defeat the purposes of the program and wouldn't offer much “protection”.

That said, the NSA would know ;-)



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