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originally posted by: captaintyinknots
ummm....ok? I dont recall saying anything different.
originally posted by: Char-Lee
a reply to: captaintyinknots
No I am not really interested in this point. For every vegan athlete you can name, I can list 100 meat eating athletes.
Yes so...the point is made it does not make you a weakly to not eat meat. It does not give you lack of brain function as proved by the great scientists who have been vegetarian or vegan.
Its funny, a handfull of vegans, claiming they are defending their stance, are the ones doing all the attacking here.
Honestly, vegans tend to be some of the most insecure people in the world.
I am not a vegetarian or a vegan. But like most people of conscience, I was sickened and horrified to see the recent video taken by animal rights activists of baby chicks being ground alive at an egg hatchery. Seeing such cruel and heartless treatment of living beings has undoubtedly caused some of us carnivores to at least take a moment to consider the dark truths behind how animals are processed for food in the modern world.
1) again, whats your point?
3) I see you, like the others, still flat out avoid the topic of health issues that can come up from going vegan.
Meateating has killed the oceans! Forests have been cleared away to make room for crops to feed cows and pigs
What I see here is desperation for a solution, and being a vegan will not solve all the perceived problems in your world.
I have in mind that if men had not turned to eating and killing for pleasure or using the skin of animals, we would have avoided many problems though.
originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: Char-Lee
I think you would be correct about us evolving differently. It is pretty much excepted that the main reason mans brain evolved to this degree is because of protein intake from meat. So it is is plausible that if we had not taken those steps in our diet we would be much like our ape cousins still. We certainly wouldn't be conversing on such advanced communication grids.
originally posted by: Iwinder
a reply to: Aleister
Done deal my Nephew gets your recipes and please keep in mind land is cleared not only to raise animals but to raise crops.
Your way or my way it don't matter one bit as the trees are coming down.
"If all the grain currently fed to livestock in the United States were consumed directly by people, the number of people who could be fed would be nearly 800 million," David Pimentel, professor of ecology in Cornell University's College of Agriculture and Life Sciences, reported at the July 24-26 meeting of the Canadian Society of Animal Science in Montreal. Or, if those grains were exported, it would boost the U.S. trade balance by $80 billion a year, Pimentel estimated.
With only grass-fed livestock, individual Americans would still get more than the recommended daily allowance (RDA) of meat and dairy protein, according to Pimentel's report, "Livestock Production: Energy Inputs and the Environment."
An environmental analyst and longtime critic of waste and inefficiency in agricultural practices, Pimentel depicted grain-fed livestock farming as a costly and nonsustainable way to produce animal protein. He distinguished grain-fed meat production from pasture-raised livestock, calling cattle-grazing a more reasonable use of marginal land.