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Using personal emotions to dictate what is right and wrong for others, is, likewise, not valid.
Wait wait wait, so I am trolling for asking you for data to back that which you claim as a fact? When you previously asked me for the exact same thing?
originally posted by: Bob Sholtz
So, where is your 'scientific data' that states eating animals is immoral?
ok, now i know i'm being trolled. good day.
Then how do you justify your claim that your idea of morals (emotionally charged, and completely subjective) are correct?
originally posted by: Bob Sholtz
a reply to: captaintyinknots
Using personal emotions to dictate what is right and wrong for others, is, likewise, not valid.
that's what i said. personal emotions cannot be a justification.
if personal pleasure was all a person needed to be right, then no rapist would be wrong.
And it's important to point out, as the authors note, that the participants following vegetarian diets also tended to be more highly educated, to drink less alcohol, to smoke less and exercise more compared with the participants who regularly consumed meat.
Nope. You said so yourself. You said you saw too many gross things, and that you felt bad for taking a life. That is emotionally charged.
you're assuming that they are emotionally charge and completely subjective
Still not getting it I see.....this is YOUR opinion. On top of that, causing harm for sustenance is, again, the way of life on this planet.
i've already stated my completely NOT subjective moral base: causing harm without reason is wrong.
Again, this is nothing but your opinion. 90% of life on this planet doesnt have any moral issues with sustaining its life by eating the flesh of another living thing.
harm is bad, and going out of your way to cause harm is therefore wrong. it is the difference between killing in self defense and murder.
You decided that killing animals is bad based on emotional experiences. That was your own admission.
what is emotionally charged and subjective about that? it isn't an opinion, but a deductive statement based on logic.
originally posted by: BlueMule
Hey meat eaters, I know you're asking yourselves how you can do more to combat climate change.
Well one thing you can do is give up meat.
originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
a reply to: Char-Lee
And it's important to point out, as the authors note, that the participants following vegetarian diets also tended to be more highly educated, to drink less alcohol, to smoke less and exercise more compared with the participants who regularly consumed meat.
Ahh the ole if you eat meat you are less intelligent then people who dont argument..
Just wow.....
Lets look at how many geniuses there are in the world , how many that have shaped the knowledge we have in our text books, and have driven us to the stars, and see how many of them eat meat....and how many are vegan...
Anyone spewing this line about how intellect is higher in such and such person because of "this and that" is indicative of a failed argument...
Anytime you have to attack someones intellect to try and drive home your own ideals, you are losing ground
Still not getting it I see.....this is YOUR opinion.
You decided that killing animals is bad based on emotional experiences. That was your own admission.
Seriously? Stop trolling. You made your decision based on how things made you feel. You FELT it was gross what you were seeing. You FELT it was wrong to kill animals.
how is the statement i offered emotionally charged? please explain.
I didnt state you were wrong. I stated that it was your opinion. Do try and stop distorting what was said-lying doesnt make you look an more credible.
it is deductive reasoning. if you think it is incorrect, then offer your own logical statement that shows i am wrong instead of simply stating i am wrong.
A)Again, in YOUR OPINION it is wrong. B)Sustenance is a very valid reason.
i realized that it is wrong when there isn't a valid reason.
None of this has anything to do with the subject, other than to further prove you are coming from a place of emotion.
do you want to be harmed? no. nothing living wants to be harmed. everything strives for self-preservation. sometimes things need to be harmed to preserve their own life. if a person attacks you, you will defend yourself, no?
Yes there is. Neither one has anything to do with eating meat, however, so your point is moot and irrelevant.
is there a difference between self defense and murder? yes or no.
No, hitlers OPINION involved genocide. It had nothing to do with natural order.
hitler's "natural order" involved genocide, do you support this; yes or no and why?