originally posted by: imwilliam
So for example then, in the much debated case of the wedding cake and the Christian baker, you don't believe that a Christian baker should have to
bake a cake for a gay wedding?
The Christian Baker never had the right to deny service to that couple. You can't just "make up" rights. It is against the law and his religion does
not give him the right to do so. Just because a person thinks they OUGHT to have that right, does not make it so. The baker had a license from the
state (Colorado) and in accordance with that license, he agreed to follow the laws of businesses in that state. What he DOES have the right to do is
to practice his religion (go to church, pray, teach his children, etc.), not to make some kind of statement by refusing to serve his customers based
on their sexual orientation.
To me that's about his rights to live his life in accordance with his religious beliefs. Do you agree?
I agree he has a right to live according to his religious beliefs, but
1. That doesn't include breaking the law, which is exactly what he did.
2. No where in the bible or any religious text does it say that a Christian must exclude people he doesn't agree with. That is the anti-theses of what
Jesus preached, in fact.
3. That baker made cakes for divorced people, sinners and other "unholy" situations. (He made a wedding cake for DOGS). So, he has no basis on which
to take his stand.
4. Who buys his cakes and what they do with the cakes is really none of his business.
If it had been a gay baker (in Colorado) and the customer was a Christian, and the gay baker refused to make a wedding cake for a Christian wedding, I
would be supporting the Christian in this case, as a business owner has NO right to refuse a customer based on his religion (or his sexual
Here's what the baker should have told himself... "I am a Christian and I don't like homosexuality - I think it's a sin. But we are all children of
God and I have an agreement with the state to serve people, even if I don't agree with their lifestyle. I will pray for this couple and make them a
beautiful cake, as I have for many other people, whose lifestyle I disagree with."
edit on 5/11/2014 by Benevolent Heretic because: (no reason