Did the USA invent Time Travel?

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posted on May, 9 2014 @ 12:35 PM
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Yes, I know this came from MSN.com - but it's an actually interesting video. It's not YouTube, so you have to go directly to the website.

I searched for this, but haven't seen it posted yet.




There's no conclusive proof, but some believe a WWII experiment by the US government may have tested invisibility & inadvertently invented time travel.


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Basically the video says:
"Did the US invent time travel? In WWII, The US Navy conducted the Philadelphia Experiment. The experiment tested Einstein's unified field theory to make the USS Eldridge and it's crew literally disappear. Unified FIeld theory says if light can be bent. So can space-time. This effectively makes it possible to build an invisible time machine. Scientists say this defies the laws of physics. The US Governement says the story is a confused retelling of experiments to make ships 'invisible' to magnetic mines. The only known witness account is a letter by 'Carlos Allende" The government says Carlos Allende was actually Carl Allen... a man who suffered from psychiatric illness."

It would be interesting to be able to find more documentation about those claims. The video basically leaves a taste in your mouth wanting more information, but leaves you to find it. So - while I'm bored at work, I think I will do some digging.
In the meantime - as the video ends "What do you think?"
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posted on May, 9 2014 @ 12:43 PM
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Kind of bummed, can't view at work. My buck fifty on the matter is that if anyone invented time travel during WW2 it was the Germans.



posted on May, 9 2014 @ 12:46 PM
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a reply to: BlastedCaddy

No worries Caddy - I wrote out everything that they said on the video. There is no speaking, just pictures and written words - so I just wrote everything down for those who couldn't watch



posted on May, 9 2014 @ 12:47 PM
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originally posted by: BlastedCaddy
Kind of bummed, can't view at work. My buck fifty on the matter is that if anyone invented time travel during WW2 it was the Germans.


I find your position illogical assuming it was created as a replicable process.

If any one had invented time travel it would be the WINNER of WWII not the loser. Surely someone would have been able to use future information to their advantage and maybe even be able to change outcomes.


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posted on May, 9 2014 @ 12:47 PM
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The stories also claim that there were people melted into the deck and hull of the Eldridge after the experiment, but the Eldridge was later sold to Greece after it was retired from US service. Somehow I doubt that if anything like that happened to her they'd be selling her to another country.



posted on May, 9 2014 @ 12:49 PM
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a reply to: CeeRZ

The video does not go into very much detail, does it?

I think that without significant access to unredacted, classified files, there is not, and will not ever be, enough data to inform an opinion on what actually happened to that boat, the science that was behind it, or what it meant.



posted on May, 9 2014 @ 12:51 PM
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So basically the government screwed up invisibility and got time travel instead. I wonder how badly they've screwed up time travel.



posted on May, 9 2014 @ 12:54 PM
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a reply to: CeeRZ

I've heard about that before and swear I've seen pics of folks melded with the walls of the ships. Reports of folks brains being wiped clean and dropping dead, others going guano loco.



posted on May, 9 2014 @ 12:54 PM
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a reply to: CeeRZ
Here is a link to the book "The Philadelphia Experiment: Project Invisibility" by William Moore and Charles Berlitz....
Amazon.com

From the Amazon review:

One day in 1943, at the Philadelphia Navy Yard, something happened . . . Suddenly the U.S.S. Eldridge, a fully manned destroyer escort, vanished into a green fog, within seconds appeared in Norfolk, Virginia, and then reappeared in Philadelphia! For over thirty-six years officials have denied this, have denied any experimentation to render matter invisible -- have denied the reality of THE PHILADELPHIA EXPERIMENT. If so, why -- * were all the men aboard ship who survived discharged as mentally unfit? * did a scientific researcher on the project meet a mysterious death? * were identities hidden, documents lost, and amazing connections between UFO sightings and events in the Bermuda Triangle denied? THE PHILADELPHIA EXPERIMENT -- the first full-length documented report on a chilling unsolved mystery that's been discussed for years. Now, official documents and first-hand stories have been revealed. Here is the truth in a report so shattering it is difficult to believe it's NOT fiction.



posted on May, 9 2014 @ 12:54 PM
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Here is a link from history.navy.mil about the Philadelphia experiment
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Allegedly, in the fall of 1943 a U.S. Navy destroyer was made invisible and teleported from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, to Norfolk, Virginia, in an incident known as the Philadelphia Experiment. Records in the Operational Archives Branch of the Naval Historical Center have been repeatedly searched, but no documents have been located which confirm the event, or any interest by the Navy in attempting such an achievement.





Supposedly, the crew of the civilian merchant ship SS Andrew Furuseth observed the arrival via teleportation of the Eldridge into the Norfolk area. Andrew Furuseth's movement report cards are in the Tenth Fleet records in the custody of the Modern Military Branch, National Archives and Records Admnistration, (8601 Adelphi Road, College Park, MD 20740-6001), which also has custody of the action reports, war diaries and deck logs of all World War II Navy ships, including Eldridge. The movement report cards list the merchant ship's ports of call, the dates of the visit, and convoy designation, if any. The movement report card shows that Andrew Furuseth left Norfolk with Convoy UGS-15 on 16 August 1943 and arrived at Casablanca on 2 September. The ship left Casablanca on 19 September and arrived off Cape Henry on 4 October. Andrew Furuseth left Norfolk with Convoy UGS-22 on 25 October and arrived at Oran on 12 November. The ship remained in the Mediterranean until it returned with Convoy GUS-25 to Hampton Roads on 17 January 1944. The Archives has a letter from Lieutenant Junior Grade William S. Dodge, USNR, (Ret.), the Master of Andrew Furuseth in 1943, categorically denying that he or his crew observed any unusual event while in Norfolk. Eldridge and Andrew Furuseth were not even in Norfolk at the same time.





The Philadelphia Experiment has also been called "Project Rainbow." A comprehensive search of the Archives has failed to identify records of a Project Rainbow relating to teleportation or making a ship disappear. In the 1940s, the code name RAINBOW was used to refer to the Rome-Berlin-Tokyo Axis. The RAINBOW plans were the war plans to defeat Italy, Germany and Japan. RAINBOW V, the plan in effect on 7 December 1941 when Japan attacked Pearl Harbor, was the plan the U.S. used to fight the Axis powers.





Some researchers have erroneously concluded that degaussing has a connection with making an object invisible. Degaussing is a process in which a system of electrical cables are installed around the circumference of ship's hull, running from bow to stern on both sides. A measured electrical current is passed through these cables to cancel out the ship's magnetic field. Degaussing equipment was installed in the hull of Navy ships and could be turned on whenever the ship was in waters that might contain magnetic mines, usually shallow waters in combat areas. It could be said that degaussing, correctly done, makes a ship "invisible" to the sensors of magnetic mines, but the ship remains visible to the human eye, radar, and underwater listening devices.


So really - all in all, it comes down to listening to reason (and government explanations which are ALWAYS true
) and creating a theory based on something that has no real meat to it.
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posted on May, 9 2014 @ 12:55 PM
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a reply to: Metallicus

Cool. but...

The story of the Eldridge is fantastical. Just like the Nazi Bell appearing over the sky's of PA 20 some odd years later after it vanished in front of a group of US Marines that were looking for it.

Who did win WW2 anyway? US? the Brits? Def not Japan...
edit on 9-5-2014 by BlastedCaddy because: to sound pretentious



posted on May, 9 2014 @ 12:55 PM
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originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: CeeRZ

The video does not go into very much detail, does it?

I think that without significant access to unredacted, classified files, there is not, and will not ever be, enough data to inform an opinion on what actually happened to that boat, the science that was behind it, or what it meant.


Exactly. Which is why I'm posting it. It gives just enough to make you interested in finding out more on your own. And no place better than on ATS.



posted on May, 9 2014 @ 12:57 PM
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originally posted by: Zaphod58
The stories also claim that there were people melted into the deck and hull of the Eldridge after the experiment, but the Eldridge was later sold to Greece after it was retired from US service. Somehow I doubt that if anything like that happened to her they'd be selling her to another country.


Don't misunderestimate the power of government accountants in the GAO.

Or the depth of the cover story. "Hey, let's sell it off, that way nobody will believe anything strange about it."


But seriously, I think the reports of all the big electric coils & magnets etc was an attempt to demagnetize the hull to make it less susceptible to magnetically detonated mines & torpedoes.



posted on May, 9 2014 @ 12:59 PM
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originally posted by: BlastedCaddy
a reply to: CeeRZ
I've heard about that before and swear I've seen pics of folks melded with the walls of the ships


Pics? Links?



posted on May, 9 2014 @ 01:01 PM
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originally posted by: ScientiaFortisDefendit
So basically the government screwed up invisibility and got time travel instead. I wonder how badly they've screwed up time travel.


How much did they screw up time travel? You all got Obama and we got Harper instead and that is pretty screwed up.

Cheers - Dave



posted on May, 9 2014 @ 01:02 PM
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The Philadelphia Experiment is a known hoax.
Old news; move along



posted on May, 9 2014 @ 01:04 PM
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a reply to: CeeRZ
The power source and accuracy of member movements in time does come to mind and does a future drive exist... interesting, OP



posted on May, 9 2014 @ 01:06 PM
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originally posted by: BlastedCaddy
a reply to: CeeRZ

I've heard about that before and swear I've seen pics of folks melded with the walls of the ships. Reports of folks brains being wiped clean and dropping dead, others going guano loco.


There are a lot of images you can grab on a google search using "philadelphia experiment" and then images instead of web. Who knows if they are real or not?

Cheers - Dave



posted on May, 9 2014 @ 01:06 PM
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a reply to: mikeone718

I'm scouring the webz now. I have not thought about that for some 15 years or so. Bare with me.
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posted on May, 9 2014 @ 01:08 PM
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a reply to: mbkennel

They would have had to do a massive overhaul, probably taking most of a year, immediately after. There's no evidence that I've seen that immediately after the experiment ended, she went in for refit, and stayed there for awhile.

It's far more likely that you're right and they were attempting to demagnetize the hull.





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