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originally posted by: htapath
originally posted by: Vasa Croe
I would agree with Turkey Vulture. Just so everyone can see the coloring and how their wings bend when in mid flap, here is a reference image. Regardless.....it is a bird.
If those are wings on the object, they are severely deformed. Two left wings flexing to the right, and showing no evidence of flapping. Where is the tail section?
originally posted by: htapath
originally posted by: Blue Shift
Something like this, probably. At a slightly different angle:
Right. Except the bird pic you posted is obviously a bird, without question. The object in question has no discernable feathers and looks solid, similar to floating chunks of earth. The clouds are in focus but the object is not. If the object was closer to the camera than the clouds, then there wouldn't be as much pixelation. This is just my opinion, of course.
originally posted by: draknoir2
originally posted by: htapath
I don't want it to be anything other than what it is, JadeStar. There are aspects of this reality which cannot easily be explained or categorized. The mystery object is several magnitudes larger than a bird or a kite in my estimation.
Consider, for example, that the object could be 20+ miles away and 5000+ feet in the air. Also, I cannot overstate the fact that neither myself nor my passengers saw the object with our naked eyes.
Are you reading the responses at all?
This was all addressed.
If neither you nor your passengers even noticed it how are you so convinced of its transcendental nature? You're technically not even an eyewitness, so your estimations of size and distance are no better than anyone else's who has seen the photo.
originally posted by: alienscot1
a reply to: htapath
definitely looks like a flying bird on the down flap of wings.
originally posted by: alienreality
But this doesn't address that oddity of light seen right in the back center of this OP image, and I would love a true answer on that, although it might just be mundane who knows...
originally posted by: Pimpish
a reply to: htapath
I'm also flabbergasted that so many posters continue to insist that the object is a bird.
Perhaps because it looks so much like a bird. That and the fact that you, and other people that were there at the time never noticed anything all points to it being a bird.
Or are you of the opinion that a (according to you) massive object in the sky would go unnoticed by you, and other people, when you were looking right at it?
It's much, much more likely that you didn't notice this object when you took the picture because it was just a bird and therefore nothing to take notice of. It's only when you later looked at the picture and you happened to catch it at just the right moment to where it looks weird that you found anything unusual.
By the way, according to weather records, the wind was blowing SW at 8.1 MPH on March 21, 2014. That's not a high wind, but isn't exactly what I would call a calm day either. Source - goo.gl...
Also, as someone else mentioned already, the fact that you didn't notice this at all while you were there means you don't have anymore information than anyone else re: it's distance from the camera. Yes, it could be 20 miles away and 5,000 feet in the air, but it's much more likely that it's 30 yards away and 50 feet in the air.
originally posted by: groingrinder
A lot of strange things get airborne in Arizona. One day I watched a plastic children's wading pool spinning away several hundred feet in the air like some kind of UFO. On a hot day the thermal updrafts and dust devils can lift lots of strange things into the air here.
With that out of the way I would also like to say that our state is a genuine hot bed of unusual activity in the skies and this picture could easily represent some of that activity.
originally posted by: Vasa Croe
originally posted by: htapath
originally posted by: Vasa Croe
I would agree with Turkey Vulture. Just so everyone can see the coloring and how their wings bend when in mid flap, here is a reference image. Regardless.....it is a bird.
If those are wings on the object, they are severely deformed. Two left wings flexing to the right, and showing no evidence of flapping. Where is the tail section?
Huh? Two left wings flexing to the right? How do you suppose that?
You are seeing your photo from an obvious angle...it appears to me to be moving from left to right and what you are seeing on the "back" of the bird is the tail, while the head is not discernible because it is in between the wings from an angled shot.
And if, like you claim, you didn't actually see this object (bird), then how are you sure of the direction in which it is moving?
Ignorance is a state of being uninformed (lack of knowledge).[1] The word ignorant is an adjective describing a person in the state of being unaware and is often used as an insult to describe individuals who deliberately ignore or disregard important information or facts.
originally posted by: wmd_2008
a reply to: htapath
a few members who have commented already like myself are keen photographers.
originally posted by: Vasa Croe
originally posted by: htapath
originally posted by: Blue Shift
Something like this, probably. At a slightly different angle:
Right. Except the bird pic you posted is obviously a bird, without question. The object in question has no discernable feathers and looks solid, similar to floating chunks of earth. The clouds are in focus but the object is not. If the object was closer to the camera than the clouds, then there wouldn't be as much pixelation. This is just my opinion, of course.
Right, except the camera used in that example was likely a lot higher resolution than your phone camera. The object would not be in perfect focus because it is moving The object is clearly closer than the clouds or it would be behind the clouds....
originally posted by: r0xor
Let me be the first to guess...
...some kind of odd weather balloon? I mean, clearly it is not aerodynamically shaped for flying.
If not that, perhaps some sort of weather-ballon LIKE scientific / weather drone.
Any other ideas?
originally posted by: wmd_2008
a reply to: htapath
Seriously this was taken with a Motorola XT907 camera phone the image from it has the following data.
Exposure Time (1 / Shutter Speed) [0x829A] = 30/100000 second ===> 1/3333.33333 second ===> 0.0003 second
Lens F-Number / F-Stop [0x829D] = 240000/100000 ===> ƒ/2.4
EXIF Version [0x9000] = 0220
Original Date/Time [0x9003] = 2014:03:21 12:00:13
Digitization Date/Time [0x9004] = 2014:03:21 12:00:13
Image size 3264x1836 resolution 72 dpi
You are TOTALLY mistaken in your assumptions of this object and it's distance, a few members who have commented already like myself are keen photographers.
It looks like what others have stated a bird mid flap the low 72 dpi resolution means it's not as clear as you would get from say a dslr (mines 4912x3264 at 350 dpi )
If it was miles away it would be huge and we would have more than one image/report of it!