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originally posted by: Boscov
Our "soul" may still experience pain based on our memories, both physical and psychological. These memories may conjure pain symptoms in the present from the past, or be projected into future anticipations. It is not all psychological where pain exists, obviously, but just like phantom pains, our soul may remember pain, which may leave one with the ability to recall the physical or psychological sensations/emotions, where the environment that triggers the pain no longer exists. We are so tightly knit and woven into our bodies that, from WebMD, "Sometimes, the brain memory of pain is retained and is interpreted as pain, regardless of signals from injured nerves."
I do not know if pain exists after death, but it does exist in the mind without physical reality and based on memory. So, if we can remember love, joy, happiness, pleasure, and comfort in the afterlife, but not pain, then something blocks or governs our memories so we will not be able to access the vault to feel real or imagined pain. And if pain goes, would not empathy/sympathy? I doubt we will be robbed of our senses, they will exist in some forms, if life after death in soul form exists. Or maybe we get a new shell and our memories/consciousness of past experiences are wiped clean.
No one knows, but for now, pain exists in at least two realms that I know of, possibly three. The third being anticipated physical and/or emotional experiences...has not happened yet, but is perceived and projected.
Good thread. Very thought provoking. The joys and pains of life!
There was a rich man who was dressed in purple and fine linen and lived in luxury every day. 20 At his gate was laid a beggar named Lazarus, covered with sores 21 and longing to eat what fell from the rich man’s table. Even the dogs came and licked his sores. 22 “The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham’s side. The rich man also died and was buried. 23 In hell, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. 24 So he called to him, ‘Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.’ 25 “But Abraham replied, ‘Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony. 26 And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been fixed, so that those who want to go from here to you cannot, nor can anyone cross over from there to us.’ 27 “He answered, ‘Then I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my father’s house, 28 for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.’ 29 “Abraham replied, ‘They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to them.’ 30 “‘No, father Abraham,’ he said, ‘but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.’ 31 “He said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.’
And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?
originally posted by: immoralist
the defacto assumption of life after death is HELL of an assumption....