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originally posted by: wills120
I want to point something out here. These are not liberals in the classic sense, they are progressives. The problem in this country is not between liberals and conservatives, it's accelerating authoritarianism, collectivism, and so-called "social justice" at the hands of authoritarian progressives.
Playing the race card is the current MO for the Progressive movement. Progressives are using shame, derision, misdirection in an attempt to stifle any and all debate or twist any situation away from a common-sense solution. If we're going to stop these people, we need to focus on who and what they are: progressive authoritarians....not liberals.
originally posted by: theantediluvian
originally posted by: wills120
I want to point something out here. These are not liberals in the classic sense, they are progressives. The problem in this country is not between liberals and conservatives, it's accelerating authoritarianism, collectivism, and so-called "social justice" at the hands of authoritarian progressives.
Playing the race card is the current MO for the Progressive movement. Progressives are using shame, derision, misdirection in an attempt to stifle any and all debate or twist any situation away from a common-sense solution. If we're going to stop these people, we need to focus on who and what they are: progressive authoritarians....not liberals.
I'd like to point out that this whole things started with some white kids pissed off at the sight of a Mexican flag on Cinco de Mayo.
For the record, "common-sense" is usually code for "don't think too much" but heeeey, you've obviously got it all figured out as you point fingers and (ironically and hypocritically) claim, "it's the other guys who are pointing the fingers!"
Stop playing the "playing the race card" card.
originally posted by: Galvatron
I didn't know Mexicans were a race. Are people really dumb enough to think this ought to stick? An Acquaintance of mine is Mexican, he looks Irish, his grand parents are Irish, but he's Mexican. Genetically he is very close to myself. My ethnicity is from the British Isles, yet if I say I dislike Mexicans, I'm somehow racist?
Mexican is a nationality, not a race. To find disagreement with a person of a certain nationality because of that nationality is prejudice, but not racist.
Do people just not understand their own language anymore or have I taken crazy pills?
ethnic or ethnical (ˈɛθnɪk)
— adj
1. relating to or characteristic of a human group having racial, religious, linguistic, and certain other traits in common
2. relating to the classification of mankind into groups, esp on the basis of racial characteristics
3. denoting or deriving from the cultural traditions of a group of people: the ethnic dances of Slovakia
4. characteristic of another culture: the ethnic look ; ethnic food
eth·nic·i·ty [eth-nis-i-tee] Show IPA
noun, plural eth·nic·i·ties.
1.
ethnic traits, background, allegiance, or association.
2.
an ethnic group: Representatives of several ethnicities were present.
Origin:
1765–75, for earlier sense; ethnic + -ity
originally posted by: ketsuko
originally posted by: theantediluvian
originally posted by: wills120
I want to point something out here. These are not liberals in the classic sense, they are progressives. The problem in this country is not between liberals and conservatives, it's accelerating authoritarianism, collectivism, and so-called "social justice" at the hands of authoritarian progressives.
Playing the race card is the current MO for the Progressive movement. Progressives are using shame, derision, misdirection in an attempt to stifle any and all debate or twist any situation away from a common-sense solution. If we're going to stop these people, we need to focus on who and what they are: progressive authoritarians....not liberals.
I'd like to point out that this whole things started with some white kids pissed off at the sight of a Mexican flag on Cinco de Mayo.
For the record, "common-sense" is usually code for "don't think too much" but heeeey, you've obviously got it all figured out as you point fingers and (ironically and hypocritically) claim, "it's the other guys who are pointing the fingers!"
Stop playing the "playing the race card" card.
So I guess the Hispanic kid who was wearing the American flag is now a "white Hispanic" a la George Zimmerman so he can fit into your preconceived attitude on this?
Racism remains a force of enormous consequence in American life, yet no one can be accused of perpetrating it without a kicking up a grand fight. No one ever says, "Yeah, I was a little bit racist. I'm sorry." That's in part because racists, in our cultural conversations, have become inhuman. They're fairy-tale villains, and thus can't be real.
There's no nuance to these public fights, as a veteran crisis manager told my colleague, Hansi Lo Wang. Someone is either a racist and therefore an inhuman monster, or they're an actual, complex human being, and therefore, by definition, incapable of being a racist.
Ta-Nehisi Coates of The Atlantic, who often writes about race, is one of several writers and thinkers who has drawn attention to this paradox:
The idea that America has lots of racism but few actual racists is not a new one. Philip Dray titled his seminal history of lynching At the Hands of Persons Unknown because most "investigations" of lynchings in the South turned up no actual lynchers. Both David Duke and George Wallace insisted that they weren't racists. That's because in the popular vocabulary, the racist is not so much an actual person but a monster, an outcast thug who leads the lynch mob and keeps *Mein Kampf *in his back pocket.
originally posted by: SaturnFX
Is the flag the thing in question here, or the anti-Mexican heritage demonstration intent behind it?
Were these people there the day before, or after CDM? What exactly what their purpose.
It was racist..the flag didn't make it racist, the intent behind those standing there did..
"hey, but all I was doing was flying this pretty indian symbol of the swastika next to the jewish memorial service...can't a man just happily fly some indian symbols without being labelled a racist?!! shesh!!!"
absurdly disingenuous strawman argument.
But hey..keep it up. the right wing is totally winning over the youth vote with their "its totally not racist" stuff.