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posted on May, 7 2014 @ 02:37 PM
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NATO declares Russia an enemy

Today NATO's second in command, Alexander Vershbow, declared that Russia is now to be categorized as an enemy.

"Clearly the Russians have declared NATO as an adversary, so we have to begin to view Russia no longer as a partner but as more of an adversary than a partner," said Alexander Vershbow, the deputy secretary-general of NATO.

This statement comes as China and Russia announced that they will be carrying out joint Naval drills in the South China Sea. This show of unity sends a message on multiple levels.

Last week the Obama administration vowed to defend Japan against China in their territorial dispute over the Senkaku islands.

So if NATO has declared Russia to be an enemy, and the U.S. is openly provoking China by injecting itself into territorial disputes, and beefing up its military presence in the South China Sea, how long until we start hearing the official war mongering rhetoric expanded to encompass all parties in the 'axis of evil'? Answer: ASAPE (As Soon As Politically Expedient).
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Cold War Spy Plane fries ATC computers at LAX

On Wednesday at about 2 p.m., according to sources, a U-2 spy plane, the same type of aircraft that flew high-altitude spy missions over Russia 50 years ago, passed through the airspace monitored by the L.A. Air Route Traffic Control Center in Palmdale, Calif. The L.A. Center handles landings and departures at the region’s major airports, including Los Angeles International (LAX), San Diego and Las Vegas.

The computers at the L.A. Center are programmed to keep commercial airliners and other aircraft from colliding with each other. The U-2 was flying at 60,000 feet, but the computers were attempting to keep it from colliding with planes that were actually miles beneath it.

Though the exact technical causes are not known, the spy plane’s altitude and route apparently overloaded a computer system called ERAM, which generates display data for air-traffic controllers. Back-up computer systems also failed.
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The head of US air forces in the Pacific said on Monday that Russia’s intervention in Ukraine had been accompanied by a significant increase in Russian air activity in the Asia-Pacific region in a show of strength and to gather intelligence.
Gen. Herbert “Hawk” Carlisle said the activity had included Russian flights to the coast of California, and around the US Pacific island of Guam.
Carlisle said the number of long-range Russian patrols around the Japanese islands and Korea had increased “drastically.” He said there had been “a lot more ship activity as well.Speaking at Washington’s Center for Strategic and International Studies think tank, Carlisle showed a slide of a US F-15 fighter jet intercepting a Russian “Bear” aircraft over Guam. He used the Cold War NATO name for Russia’s Tupolov Tu-95 strategic bomber.
“Certainly what’s going on in Ukraine and Crimea is a challenge for us and it’s a challenge for us in Asia Pacific as well as Europe,” Carlisle said.
He said there had been “a significant” increase in Russian activity in the Asia Pacific area, “and we relate a lot of that to what’s going on in the Ukraine.”
“They’ve come with their long-range aviation out to the coast of California, they’ve circumnavigated Guam,” he said.
“That’s to demonstrate their capability to do it, it’s to gather intel,” Carlisle said, adding that the surveillance had included observation of military exercises involving US forces in South Korea and Japan.
“There are things that are concerning with respect to how they operate and how transparent they are with other nations in the vicinity,” he said.
Carlisle did not give details of the incidents. and the Defense Department and the US Air Force and Navy in the Pacific did not immediately respond to a request for more information.
Mike Green, senior vice president for Asia at CSIS, said the frequency of incidents was up and described them as being “evocative of the Cold War.”
Russian President Vladimir Putin announced in 2007 that Russia was resuming Soviet-era sorties by its strategic bomber aircraft near NATO airspace that were suspended in 1992 after the collapse of the Soviet Union.
Putin, who made the announcement during a joint military exercise with China, said the move was necessary to guarantee Russia’s safety and that other nations had not followed Moscow’s example in suspending such flights.
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NEW YORK – The stock market dive Friday that brought the Dow Jones Industrial Average to near 16,000 and the Nasdaq to below 4,000 might reflect an accelerated move by Russia away from the petrodollar in retaliation for the Obama administration’s threatened economic sanctions over Russia’s takeover of Crimea.

Russia’s politically motivated attack on the petrodollar could trigger a major U.S. stock market collapse amid a global loss of confidence in the dollar caused by the Federal Reserve’s continuing policy of buying billions of dollars monthly in U.S. Treasury debt.
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posted on May, 7 2014 @ 02:49 PM
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a reply to: tacjtg
Why is this news? Theyve ALWAYS been planning. As we have been against them. Everyone knows that. And no its not now "closer thatn its ever been to..." Bull. Sorry



posted on May, 7 2014 @ 02:51 PM
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Thank God we have Obambo in office




posted on May, 7 2014 @ 02:54 PM
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All of this is old news. The Russian jets buzzing California/Guam; thats been happening nonstop aince the Cold War it just normally does not make the news. It is no big deal or nothing new.

Nowhere in your article does it say the LAX incident with the U2 Plane involved the Russians. I do not think it involved the Russians at all? Forgive me if im wrong but thatd be the first im hearing of it....NATO has always viewed Russia as an adversary whether publicly or not....


The whole petrodollar thing, well you may have something there, I can certainly see Russia attempt to wage an economic war on the US in the future but we all saw that coming and who can blame em?



posted on May, 7 2014 @ 02:54 PM
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Dude, the Russians are pulling back from Ukraine. Sanctions worked apparently, maybe there were secret deals made?

Doom off?



posted on May, 7 2014 @ 02:57 PM
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Closet the U.S and Russia will, and most likely always have been to an all out armed conflict was the Cuban missile crisis.

This stuff has been going on for years. Calling each others bluffs since the cold war 'ended'. As for the U-2 Spy plane, it's kind of odd. Most likely just a miss understanding by the pilot flying over the air port.



posted on May, 7 2014 @ 03:03 PM
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Russia has 1 carrier. -_-

Lol, good luck.



posted on May, 7 2014 @ 03:04 PM
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originally posted by: ausername
Dude, the Russians are pulling back from Ukraine. Sanctions worked apparently, maybe there were secret deals made?

Doom off?


Exactly, I wonder if this SCG dot com is another SORCHA fAAL, or similar.



posted on May, 7 2014 @ 03:06 PM
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a reply to: strongfp

We came closer than you can possibly know this time. Not completely stabilized now, but it all could have taken another course weeks ago, leading to a different outcome.

Let's hope all sides can work together to establish cooperation and trust again. We're going to need it in the times ahead....

IMO



posted on May, 7 2014 @ 03:12 PM
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originally posted by: ausername
a reply to: strongfp

We came closer than you can possibly know this time. Not completely stabilized now, but it all could have taken another course weeks ago, leading to a different outcome.

Let's hope all sides can work together to establish cooperation and trust again. We're going to need it in the times ahead....

IMO


I doubt it... Russia had their tanks ready, and half their navy waiting, and even invaded U.S waters in a standoff during the CMC. This was close, but not that close.



posted on May, 7 2014 @ 03:16 PM
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So if Russia is planning war with NATO and the US, what does a U-2 causing ATC problems have to do with it?


(post by RP2SticksOfDynamite removed for political trolling and baiting)

posted on May, 7 2014 @ 03:29 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

And U2's fly over the Us alot and the Uk with out any Atc problems so why did he one reported cause Atc problems?



posted on May, 7 2014 @ 03:36 PM
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So Russia is planning on a war with and enemy that out numbers it in every single way by a large margin? Yeah, the one thing Russia will avoid like the palgue is direct conflcit with the US/NATO. It would be a high risk no reward.



posted on May, 7 2014 @ 03:38 PM
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originally posted by: SLAYER69
Thank God we have Obambo in office



Now that's funny.......!



posted on May, 7 2014 @ 03:39 PM
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a reply to: UKGuy1805

Because even with upgrades the basic system is forty years old. Think of it as a computer.

One day you turn it on and it boots fast, and everything runs great. The next day you come in and its running slower, but everything seems fine. Then suddenly you try to run a program, and the whole thing crashes. Its a program you've run for years without a problem, but this time it's what pushes everything over the proverbial edge and takes the whole system out.



posted on May, 7 2014 @ 03:44 PM
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a reply to: tacjtg

No war starts without the Octopus agreeing- In other words there really are no sides and G20 nations know their assigned rolls.


Yawning is the solution folks.



posted on May, 7 2014 @ 03:58 PM
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It would not necessarily be so difficult for Russia to carry out confrontations with the U.S. because the logistics are way more stretched for the U.S. than for Russia, at least if the confrontation occurred in Russia's neighborhood.

Logistics would be even more strained if those countries which do a large amount of manufacturing for the U.S. leaned more toward allying with Russia, which they will (China, NK, (we would probably lose south korea in the process to NK), never mind those arab (Iran, Afghanistan, Etceterastan) countries we have been bullying and wasting manpower and resources on for years.

Never mind our manufacturing base is all but completely gone today, which is what enabled us to do well in WW2, I don't say win it because nobody really wins when it goes into armed conflict.

These logistical issues cropped up in every U.S. conflict since WW2, the smaller the world gets, the more people get in the way by demanding space and resources for themselves which complicates procuring resources to waste on war.

War is such a goddamned waste of time, I don't know how some people who sound like they have more than two firing brain cells cannot see it for what it is, actually, in a way I can.

....but that is a different topic completely....





a reply to: MrSpad



posted on May, 7 2014 @ 04:13 PM
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Quote to MrSpad. (somethings happened to the quote link in the reply box, serious blocking in replying too)




By the sound of it, it's all the other way round. Vershbow has put out a message for NATO countries to increase military spending. with the other hand, they have cut off relations with Russia, although Russia still maintains it's diplomatic link to NATO, and there is no hint of Russia planning a war, however Vershbow certainly is...at least in his mind.


Washinton post story, probably the original source,

www.washingtonpost.com...
edit on 7-5-2014 by smurfy because: Link.



posted on May, 7 2014 @ 04:18 PM
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They need to either do it or not do it, this constant state of fear they keep the people too in nauseating.......






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