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originally posted by: intrptr
It won't change the fact American troops are building in Poland on the western border of Ukraine. I'm guessing they aren't there for the sausage.
My belief is you'll criticize it until your security and way of life is threatened, then you'd suddenly have a change of heart.
originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: Rocker2013
My belief is you'll criticize it until your security and way of life is threatened, then you'd suddenly have a change of heart.
I've never felt very secure in my own country. I grew up during the Vietnam war and I am watching that same crap unfold all over again. The US defending "American shores" thousands of miles from home, right.
originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: CalibratedZeus
Good job creating this topic and not contributing a single thing to it too, classy.
I know, huh?
What "troops", how far?
It won't change the fact American troops are building in Poland on the western border of Ukraine. I'm guessing they aren't there for the sausage.
Yah, its not Mainstream-ing source. Wonderful thing, the Internet.
RT
Until then, people in the "west" need to wind their necks in and stop pretending they are so oppressed and hard done by
The IMF will not let it happen.
originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: Rocker2013
Until then, people in the "west" need to wind their necks in and stop pretending they are so oppressed and hard done by
Thats my point, we aren't. Our "wars on terror" and "humanitarian campaigns" are delusional at best and a violation of international sovereignty with other countries. By the way, Vietnam is just one example. The US has been invading countries and killing people since it began.
originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: Patriotsrevenge
Personally I believe that like in Syria, the attempt is to create an atrocity so horrendous (like Odessa) that Putin will lose self control (which he hasn't) and swarm across the border into Ukraine, thereby giving the West all the fodder it needs to say , "Seee? He's invading, he's invading, something must be done!"
originally posted by: lightedhype
Lay off the OP guys. There should be a Ukraine forum of it's own by now IMO. Many people interested in the Ukraine probably do not even know where to find the main thread anymore lol just my opinion. This is big news IF the troops do withdraw. I cannot see why Putin would randomly make this statement if not true ??
Nothing changes the reality, and the reality is that Russia invaded Ukraine.
Crimea was invaded, and Crimea was stolen from Ukraine by Russia.
No other country needs to point and scream "See! He's invading!" HE ALREADY DID
originally posted by: intrptr
So you say. I see that Kerry, the chief of the CIA, McCain and people from the state department all meddling over there. Kerry gives speeches. He says, Putin must do this and must do that.
originally posted by: intrptr
Every time McCain, the CIA and state department visit another program jumps off from Kiev, where the usurpers are.
originally posted by: intrptr
Thats my evidence. Your Russian "thunder runs" with tanks up main street are lacking. It may yet come to pass, but it will be Russia's response to what is happening, not the cause of it. Just like the occupation of Crimea happened after the coup in Kiev. Not before, after.
originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: Rocker2013
Crimea was invaded, and Crimea was stolen from Ukraine by Russia.
No other country needs to point and scream "See! He's invading!" HE ALREADY DID
Nice switch from Ukraine to Crimea. By the way, The Russians Black Sea fleet has been in Sevastopol for hundreds of years already. They don't have to invade whats already theres.
Plus it was a referendum that the people voted on in Crimea, unlike the coup in Kiev.
it's not such a leap to identify exactly who is the aggressor here - here's a hint, IT'S RUSSIA
So, let me get this straight.