Arrested for Speaking Out at School Board Meeting - Video

So i, under freedom of speech, can go into a courtroom during a trial and have my say until my heart is content? No. That is not what feedom of speech is about. This man had his say and then continued to disrupt the meeting. He wasn't arrested for WHAT he said, but rather his actions after what he said. If he would have said his peice, then sat down and shut the f up there would have been no problem. This man is an instigator plain and simple. Everyone at the meeting understood this, and that is why no one stood up for him

a reply to: abdctd

But if a stranger walks up to your kid and shows them that material, you would probably either beat or kill them. But this guy, this guy is an instigator.

Instigate these, guy.

Courtrooms have nothing to do with it. You are falsely implanting authority. Courtrooms have the authority they have for a reason. A mistrial costs the taxpayers a lot of money, for one thing.

originally posted by: DrinkMoreWater
a reply to: abdctd

But if a stranger walks up to your kid and shows them that material, you would probably either beat or kill them. But this guy, this guy is an instigator.

Instigate these, guy.

Courtrooms have nothing to do with it. You are falsely implanting authority. Courtrooms have the authority they have for a reason. A mistrial costs the taxpayers a lot of money, for one thing.

WTH?

What stranger on street has to do with book assignment in school?

This guy has his own opinion that material is offensive, most likely based on his religious belief, that still does not give him any rights to obstruct meeting, either if he is right or wrong.

So in your opinion courtrooms are separate thing, and people being paid in this meeting should just let him interrupt and object as much as he wants,... as that is not cost from taxpayers money - witch is false statement - it's public school.

All you had to do is check other posts to see that he prepared 'scene', supporting questionable organization that is paid by DeVoss and Kosh family... that is enough for me to know it is another religion vs. science and education issue...

BTW, have you read 1984? How old were you?

Don't be fooled by title, it is misleading in this thread.

originally posted by: SuperFrog

originally posted by: DrinkMoreWater
a reply to: abdctd

But if a stranger walks up to your kid and shows them that material, you would probably either beat or kill them. But this guy, this guy is an instigator.

Instigate these, guy.

Courtrooms have nothing to do with it. You are falsely implanting authority. Courtrooms have the authority they have for a reason. A mistrial costs the taxpayers a lot of money, for one thing.

WTH?

What stranger on street has to do with book assignment in school?

This guy has his own opinion that material is offensive, most likely based on his religious belief, that still does not give him any rights to obstruct meeting, either if he is right or wrong.

See what I'm talking about?

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THANKS CORPORATE AMERICA

a reply to: DrinkMoreWater
"Instigate these, guy" classic.

originally posted by: DrinkMoreWater
See what I'm talking about?

MOVING TO RUSSIA - GOODBYE

THANKS CORPORATE AMERICA

no, i don't think ANYBODY sees wtf you're talking about, and that's the problem..

you're not making a damn bit of sense..

a reply to: Realtruth

He wasn't arrested for going over his 2-minute mark, he was arrested after failing to comply with established decorum, which is a breach of the peace, which is disorderly conduct.

Society has developed an unhealthy obsession with immediate gratification, we demand to be heard, acknowledged, and pandered to once we state our demands. That isn't how civil society works, the man should have prepared himself to deliver a concise message in 2-minutes, and organized other parents to do the same.

But no, we huff and puff and make a scene, then wonder why consequences ensue.

Children.

originally posted by: DrinkMoreWater
a reply to: abdctd

But if a stranger walks up to your kid and shows them that material, you would probably either beat or kill them.

Ah yes, the kill or thrash it solution to a problem... Are we as a species devolving socially?.. something offends me or some other human affronts me or mine, kill it, maim it!

Over-reactionary in the extreme. Personally I find this whole thing a laugh, in highschool my class at 14 years of age had to read a book dealing with extreme drug use in its main character... as far as im aware none of us immediately or latter, started dropping acid or injecting ourselves with heroine. For 5th form English we watched a film that contained a rape scene, none of us got warped by it.

Wonder what the guy thinks his children are thinking, i can tell him this from personal experience and observation... they arent all happy pure nor chaste thoughts I tell you (kids know and understand about this sort of things WAY earlier than most parents like to acknowledge), although im sure if there was a way for him to snoop on his kids thoughts to keep them 'clean' he would use it. People on his side spout freedom of speech, what about the schools right to teach and the kids right to learn from all angles?

originally posted by: DrinkMoreWater
a reply to: abdctd

But if a stranger walks up to your kid and shows them that material, you would probably either beat or kill them.

I don't get it? If a stranger showed my kid a book with an obscene passage? I doubt I would take it to that extreme. Or are you assuming it's a picture book?

Or changing the content being shown to make your point?

a reply to: abdctd

added to my sig....absolutely classic..

It is a 1st Amendment issue. He was attempting to petition the government for a redress of grievances, and they were blowing him off.

As to kids being exposed to worse, so why worry about them seeing this? It's one thing when they see illicit porn with friends on the sly in defiance of their parents or have hidden explicit conversations with friends. It's another thing entirely when an institution of authority nearly on level with their parents openly gives it to them in the form of an approved reading assignment. It can and does undermine parental authority in such matters.

And you don't have to be religious to think this is inappropriate for kids of this age.

Frankly, I think the author could address the abusive sexual themes without resorting to the graphic depictions, but that's just me.

Here's a thought, stop feeding that school. Everyone (that agrees with this gentleman) take your kids out of that school. It's much like the government but easier to fix. Their power comes from us, remove us and they are obsolete.

a reply to: Hr2burn

He would actually help school by removing his kid from school. If you followed discussion, he was one making trouble, not following rules and making scene. I am just sorry for poor kid that has father like that... He is not best example for his kid...


@ketsuko - interrupting others and making a scene and not stopping when he was nicely asked to stop - that is not 1st amendment issue. He came there with an agenda, book is just an excuse. Follow other threats regarding that...

That excerpt certainly is racy and disturbing and I wouldn't want my 14 year old son to read it til he was older. I have no problem with it being on school reading lists with permission sought by parents, which the school admitted they screwed up on and normally did seek permission for that particular book.

No way in hell should that dad have been arrested. He had every right to be upset and every right to speak about up about it, I wouldn't have stopped talking at 2 minutes either if I hadn't been given a satisfactory answer as to why my 14 year old child was reading x-rated material without my permission.

a reply to: PhoenixOD

A 2 minute rule isn't a law, it's a guideline. The cop was way out of line doing the dirty work for the Progressives in the school board. Who told that cop to arrest a parent for speaking out? Only the liberal fascists! The only charge they could press was disturbance of the peace or something like that.

a reply to: JohnnyCanuck
I was just talking to some people about this tonight. The question was why were all the other parents just sitting around watching the guy get arrested for defending his daughter's innocence? Fear, being dumbed down, agreeing with the fascists, who knows.

a reply to: JohnnyCanuck

a reply to: ketsuko

Yes, you are exactly right, the Supreme State has seized authority from the parents. This is a sign of Totalitarianism. John Dewey believed the State was Supreme and the children belonged to the State and his ideas are the foundation of our modern school system. In Marxism, the State is considered Supreme and the individual exists for the State. There was even a story in the last year or so a journalist who said that children don't belong to their parents they belong to the public. I guess that's what happens when you have Marxist professors running amok through the universities.

a reply to: SuperFrog

Seriously? You think a parent should not speak up about the smut being paraded as mandatory assignments? And you are defending him being arrested for speaking out? I think it's awesome what the guy did. He was courageous. I know people who would stand up and be arrested with him. Someone just said it tonight to me.