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originally posted by: Realtruth
A man was arrested for speaking out in an informal meeting. And just because he asked to be arrested is not sufficient grounds for arrest, diligent police officers know this.
Also speaking up at a meeting, or out of turn of roberts rules of order is not itself an offense to be incarcerated. Bad arrest and bad decision by the school board. The meeting should have been adjourned immediately and no one should have been arrested.
originally posted by: JohnnyCanuck
A) It was a formal business meeting of the school board, so you're wrong there.
The guy's a lawyer, and he brought a pretty serious looking camera crew. What do you wanna bet he's running for office?
originally posted by: Realtruth
originally posted by: JohnnyCanuck
A) It was a formal business meeting of the school board, so you're wrong there.
Thanks for that. Typo edit
Doesn't give them grounds to arrest. Period.
Baer's arrest came after he was asked to leave the meeting after interrupting a statement by a Joe Wernig, a parent who supported having the book on the school's reading list and suggested that if Baer and other critics had their way ''these people will be dictating what we can and cannot read.'' That prompted Baer to interrupt and say ''that's absurd'. No one's trying to ban the book or burn it''' and defend his criticism of the choice of the book for high school students to read as justified. He was then asked to leave the room by Gilford Police Lt. James Leach and arrested when he refused. Link[/e xnews]
originally posted by: Realtruth
originally posted by: JohnnyCanuck
A) It was a formal business meeting of the school board, so you're wrong there.
Thanks for that. Typo edit
Still doesn't give them grounds to arrest. Period.
originally posted by: Daedalus
oh hell....looks like i'm gonna need this...
there we go....
ok, so i'm guessing i'm gonna be in the minority here, but i didn't see too big a problem with what happened here..
he was being loud, and obnoxious, and disruptive, he was asked to stop, he continued, the cop asked him to leave, he didn't.....it wasn't so much the fact that he was speaking up about the content of the book, it was a matter of him being disruptive in the meeting....
i mean, i don't like the idea of people being arrested for little stuff like this, but if he's being disruptive, and refusing to stop, or leave, what choice is left?
A typical definition of disorderly conduct defines the offense in these ways:
A person who recklessly, knowingly, or intentionally:
(1) engages in fighting or in tumultuous conduct;
(2) makes unreasonable noise and continues to do so after being asked to stop; or
(3) disrupts a lawful assembly of persons;
commits disorderly conduct
originally posted by: Unity_99
They adore their pensions, medical and dental. Take it away from them and let other schools step in line.
originally posted by: SuperFrog
a reply to: Realtruth
And if he shows up again, witch I am sure he would do?!
originally posted by: SuperFrog
a reply to: Realtruth
Sorry to break it up to you, but meetings are not place where everyone speaks as they seem fit.
This man not following rules, and as that longer video shows, actually provoking Chairman... you can make civil unrest out of it, I just call it stupidity.
As for book, I haven't read the book, and I doubt that idiot who got arrested did read whole book. There has to be good reason this was given to this kids for reading, especially after so many school shootings. If book makes one shooter release he will do something stupid - great, there is a reason to read it.
Comparing every stupidity with what our forefathers did - that is why in Georgia today you can carry gun everywhere except in the building where people who came with that law work... Sorry, same excuse does not work all the time...
originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
He didn't get arrested for speaking out. He got arrested for refusing to honor the time limit and taking over the meeting, not letting others have their time.
I think you're looking for something to call a free speech violation where there is none.
originally posted by: Realtruth
originally posted by: SuperFrog
a reply to: Realtruth
And if he shows up again, witch I am sure he would do?!
If this guy has a hidden agenda, since he is a lawyer, and he is taking advantage of a situation, which I hope is not the case, then I would have to place him in the scumbag lawyer section.
Rights are one thing, but ambulance chasing lawyers that bait the system are almost as bad a corrupt politicians.
Baer has attracted a lot of media attention both before and after Monday night's meeting, which was filmed by WMUR Channel 9, including an interview with Education Action Group Foundation, a group which says it wants to promote sensible education reform and expose those who have an interest in maintaining the status quo.