Rare Earthquake Advisory Issued for Oklahoma

a reply to: olaru12

The best thing to do is to go to the town meetings when there are plans to do this around your area and calmly voice concern of the things that can go wrong. You should bring evidence and ask the people if they want to gamble on this for such a small benefit in the community.

Getting crazy with this is not wise. There is no worse thing than acting overly enthused when presenting information because the ones in the community will shun you. Calm and confident with real evidence.

I know we need fuels to heat our house and create electricity. The best way is to acquire these fuels responsibly, taking into consideration water supplies, feasibility of proper disposal of toxic chemistry created, and actual benefit to the community. If the extra money is going on projects that are not really needed, then what is the gain. Not worth the risk sometimes.

Up here, we have crystal aquifers. Contaminating the aquifer anywhere can cause problems with the water. We also have Lake Superior, which should definitely not have fracking anywhere around it. If the fractures extend out into the lake, it is nothing but trouble. It could jeopardize the fishing industry and customers of the fish. It is not only the people who could suffer, it is also other businesses employing thousands of people in the great lakes.

originally posted by: bobs_uruncle
a reply to: MrLimpet

When did fracking start? That would be my first question as to why there is a steady and prolonged increase in the number and magnitude of earthquakes.

Cheers - Dave

It started long ago. Fracking in some form has been happening since the 1940's.

originally posted by: ItCameFromOuterSpace

originally posted by: bobs_uruncle
a reply to: MrLimpet

When did fracking start? That would be my first question as to why there is a steady and prolonged increase in the number and magnitude of earthquakes.

Cheers - Dave

It started long ago. Fracking in some form has been happening since the 1940's.

Gold Rush Hydraulic Mining

for instance,,




Actually its been around for , long time.
maybe a bit more advanced.
but same idea.

Small EQ's but this is what is listed for today alone.

Preliminary Earthquake Information


Origin Time (UTC) Latitude Longitude Depth (km) Magnitude


2014-05-06 20:06:44.749000 36.288 +/- 0.9 -97.208 +/- 1.2 5.0 +/- 0.0 2.3 ML OGS
2014-05-06 18:37:45.357999 36.706 +/- 1.4 -98.211 +/- 2.3 5.0 +/- 2.7 2.5 ML OGS
2014-05-06 17:21:37.527999 36.345 +/- 1.1 -97.073 +/- 1.9 6.7 +/- 2.6 2.2 ML OGS
2014-05-06 15:17:33.362999 36.393 +/- 1.2 -97.148 +/- 1.6 5.0 +/- 4.3 2.7 ML OGS
2014-05-06 15:06:52.731999 36.398 +/- 0.9 -97.149 +/- 1.3 5.0 +/- 0.0 2.2 ML OGS
2014-05-06 13:14:41.033999 36.346 +/- 0.8 -97.084 +/- 1.7 5.2 +/- 3.8 2.1 ML OGS
2014-05-06 11:22:40.177999 36.637 +/- 4.6 -97.831 +/- 4.0 5.0 +/- 0.0 2.6 ML OGS
2014-05-06 07:38:52.649999 36.124 +/- 0.8 -97.643 +/- 1.3 4.6 +/- 1.5 2.0 ML OGS
2014-05-06 06:08:10.441000 35.904 +/- 0.5 -97.265 +/- 0.9 4.8 +/- 1.6 3.2 ML OGS
2014-05-06 03:43:07.004999 36.328 +/- 1.9 -97.083 +/- 2.0 5.0 +/- 0.0 2.1 ML OGS
2014-05-06 03:07:46.223999 36.084 +/- 1.4 -97.302 +/- 2.0 4.9 +/- 3.9 1.7 ML OGS
2014-05-06 02:49:13.603999 36.901 +/- 2.3 -97.385 +/- 2.2 5.0 +/- 0.0 2.0 ML OGS
2014-05-06 01:25:50.082000 36.893 +/- 4.8 -97.638 +/- 3.7 5.0 +/- 0.0 2.0 ML OGS
2014-05-06 01:08:01.197999 36.634 +/- 1.1 -97.828 +/- 1.3 5.0 +/- 0.0 2.9 ML OGS
2014-05-06 00:20:47.944000 35.790 +/- 1.4 -97.093 +/- 1.8 5.0 +/- 0.0 1.7 ML OGS
2014-05-06 00:11:17.695000 36.612 +/- 2.0 -97.844 +/- 1.7 5.0 +/- 0.0 1.8 ML OGS

Recent EQ's past 7 days

originally posted by: ItCameFromOuterSpace

originally posted by: bobs_uruncle
a reply to: MrLimpet

When did fracking start? That would be my first question as to why there is a steady and prolonged increase in the number and magnitude of earthquakes.

Cheers - Dave

It started long ago. Fracking in some form has been happening since the 1940's.

Please provide a link showing when and where fracking started in Oklahoma. Please also specify whether the initial well was a test well or a functional high volume well. Aggressive fracking in Oklahoma from what I have been able to find has only been going on for about 10 years.

Cheers - Dave

This is perfect, we've got a storm cellar being installed tomorrow, if the tornado doesn't get me (I live right on the border of Moore, OK in S.W. OKC), a freaking earthquake will kill me while I'm ducking the tornado in the big concrete hole in the ground...

sigh...

I've lived all over, you either get hurricanes, tornadoes, wild fires, mud slides, killer sandstorms, deadly pestilence, or earthquakes...

I say we build the mothership and find a planet like Hawaii. I'd sign up.

Hi guys.

I've only posted a couple of times on these earthquake threads, but I do often read them.

In a previous thread a while back, I think I can recall someone posted about seeing rainbow type colours in the sky before a major earthquake (I think it was Fukushima). And I had had a dream about a major quake and in the dream I saw rainbow type patches of sky, and I commented with description of the dream. Then that massive earthquake struck.

Anyway, I don't want to alarm anyone, but a few minutes ago a Facebook friend of mine in Oklahoma, has just posted a photograph she has taken of a beautiful sunny Oklahoma sky, and there is a patch of rainbow type colours in the sky/clouds, and as soon as I saw it I had a feeling that a big quake is about to happen.
This prompted me to come on ATS and see if anything about quakes in Oklahoma might have been posted, and I was shocked to see this new thread as soon as I looked.

I really hope I'm wrong guys. Be safe over there.

Fracking can't be bad for the environment, particularly in earthquake zones. Otherwise why would environmentalist democrats like Jerry Brown and Al Gore enable their buddies at Occidental to do it in California?

In August, Brown gave his blessing to a dramatic expansion of fracking in California's massive oil shale formations, which underlie a large area of the state from Southern to Central California. The fracking bill Brown signed into law, SB4, ensures that fracking will move forward unimpeded for at least the next two years, and exempts fracking from thorough review under the California Environmental Quality Act (CEQA), the state's bedrock environmental law.
truth-out.org...

The state Division of Oil, Gas, and Geothermal Resources has not tracked fracking activity comprehensively, so the extent of the practice is hard to quantify, but companies like Venoco and Occidental Petroleum have boasted to their investors about their use of unconventional techniques like fracking. Occidental, the largest acreage holder of oil and gas mineral rights in California and the largest player in the Monterey Shale, told investors in July, "We've drilled approximately 1,300 unconventional wells in California since 1998. More than 1,000 of these have been in and around Elk Hills, including the Monterey and other key shale plays." -- Claire Sandburg, Truthout, Nov. 11, 2013

I started a thread on perhaps having a prayer circle of ATS members to help in times of all types of trauma like earthquakes. It was thrown in the trash.

I have a feeling OK and all along to Madrid fault are going to need prayers very soon as will the North West.

I tried....

This is the pic my friend posted of the sky in Oklahoma a short while ago. Note the rainbow type patches in the sky I mentioned in my previous post.

I'm no expert, but I think these rainbow patches could be related to major quakes.

a reply to: doobydoll

Looks like the sun was just out of the picture above those. Nice sun halo, I've got a few pictures of them, and yes, they get that vibrant.

Just to let you know, it has nothing to do with EQs, otherwise FL would have fallen off the face of the earth by now due to the amount I've seen.

originally posted by: Springer

I say we build the mothership and find a planet like Hawaii. I'd sign up.

At our age we'll need a Stargate, no time for a space voyage let's just get there.

Count me in too.

No it's not fracking. (cough, cough)

www.thenation.com...

Scientists have drawn links between earthquakes and wastewater injection wells used for oil and gas production, including fracking. Researchers say the toxic wastewater, stored thousands of feet underground, reducing friction along fault lines, which can trigger earthquakes. The ongoing fracking boom has led to a growth in national demand for disposal wells, according to Bloomberg.

originally posted by: Springer
This is perfect, we've got a storm cellar being installed tomorrow, if the tornado doesn't get me (I live right on the border of Moore, OK in S.W. OKC), a freaking earthquake will kill me while I'm ducking the tornado in the big concrete hole in the ground...

sigh...

I've lived all over, you either get hurricanes, tornadoes, wild fires, mud slides, killer sandstorms, deadly pestilence, or earthquakes...

I say we build the mothership and find a planet like Hawaii. I'd sign up.

Amen, Mark... even up in the end of the alley in central IL is bad enough.
Old enough to remember Oak Lawn on Palm Sunday '65, when that doubleheader
F4 pounded up Dixie Highway. In fact I'd pay seniors rate for a spot in the
wheel well and an O2 bottle, after being a little too close to the high school.

There have been too many threads around here that warned against juicing the
New Madrid too vigorously; just for the sake of keeping the continental US from
busting apart into three distinct chunks, much farther apart.
There's Edgar Cayce's, the Navy 2015 and a few geologists' renditions that make it
look too much like it's the object of everyone's (at the top) efforts. Hmm

PS Tap water that tastes like hypnotized carp after PT after the charcoal run-through.

a reply to: bobs_uruncle

First Frack In OK 1949

On March 17, 1949, a team of petroleum production experts converges on an oil well about 12 miles east of Duncan, Oklahoma – to perform the first commercial application of hydraulic fracturing

The only other info I have is from generations of oilfield workers in my family and friends.
I think the only relatively new technique is horizontal drilling. But that's been happening for decades as well. The aggressive drilling comes and goes with oil booms. I don't doubt it has something to do with fracking, but I haven't seen definitive evidence. I think these fault lines are just being active. We've always known they were there and that they were due.

a reply to: Springer

Springer, I've lived in OK my whole life and have never seen a tornado on the ground. Though, I got real close in 1999 and last year in Pauls Valley. Hope you get that shelter built being in Moore and all! Though it so far seems like we're going to slip right into a Summer drought. But May just began.

originally posted by: ItCameFromOuterSpace
a reply to: bobs_uruncle

First Frack In OK 1949

On March 17, 1949, a team of petroleum production experts converges on an oil well about 12 miles east of Duncan, Oklahoma – to perform the first commercial application of hydraulic fracturing

The only other info I have is from generations of oilfield workers in my family and friends.
I think the only relatively new technique is horizontal drilling. But that's been happening for decades as well. The aggressive drilling comes and goes with oil booms. I don't doubt it has something to do with fracking, but I haven't seen definitive evidence. I think these fault lines are just being active. We've always known they were there and that they were due.

Good job, thanks for that info, all I could find doing a fairly quick survey of search engines was the more horizontal aggressive fracking starting around 2000/2001. I also believe that the earth is reasonably stable in that area, but subject to tipping points like almost any area and that fracking is very possibly driving the earthquake problem. More accelerating the advent of greater amplitude and more frequent quakes as this process may be opening stress points or creating new ones.

Cheers - Dave

a reply to: bobs_uruncle

You could be right. The earth is really stable out here.. never hear of sinkholes and the like. In the past whenever there have been small earthquakes they always seemed to happen when it was extremely cold. The 5.6 that hit in 2011 shook me out of bed and was the one that really got the attention of everyone that something out of the ordinary was going on. I believe it was reported that it was a shallow quake. Wish I understood the science of it all better, but this is all new!

Something tells me that the magnetic poles shifting these past few years have caused ancient magma chambers to destabilize. We may witness Yellowstone pop within the next 25-40 years and my biggest concern is exactly just how much of the continent may become inundated back underneath the oceans. I fear we may be severely underestimating these Earth changes, possibly because we all know there isn't a darn thing we can do to stop them.

Cheers my friends, it's been a good ride

from my very crude analysis the quakes in the last month or so have all centred mostly around Coyle OK (35.9N, 97.2W) within 1 degree N/S & E/W or so and all roughly less than 10Km deep.

Is there anything around there which could cause this to become the focal point of the eqs?



in addition to the wells there are old lead and zinc mines, sinkholes and of course the faults too if this hubpages article is true.