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originally posted by: jjkenobi
a reply to: rickynews
If it's a "phony scandal" or a "witch hunt" then they have nothing to fear in releasing the information. Until they do I will assume they are attempting to hide something. Why else would they not cooperate?
originally posted by: GNOarmy
a reply to: gusdynamite
Again, Americans died. I don't expect you to understand that. I'm arguing with someone halfway around the world. Another Peirs Morgan wannabe telling Americans they know best. What happens to him by the way. Oh wait, We Americans got tired of hearing his s**t too.
What is it with people from other countries telling Americans that they know best? I like Fosters beer by the way....
Gregory Hicks, then deputy chief of the U.S. diplomatic mission in Libya, told investigators for the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee that U.S. officials had persuaded the Libyan government to allow the Special Forces operatives to board the rescue flight from Tripoli to Benghazi. But an officer received a phone call telling them to stand down before they left for the airport, according to excerpts of his account made available to NBC News on Monday. That conversation occurred after the U.S. ambassador to Libya and another American had been killed in the initial attack, but hours before a second attack that killed two other Americans.
Hicks quoted a Special Forces commander as telling him, "I have never been so embarrassed in my life, that a State Department officer has bigger balls than somebody in the military," referring to his willingness to authorize the mission.
Source: ( NBC News May 06 2013)
“I believe if we had been able to scramble a fighter or aircraft or two over Benghazi as quickly as possible after the attack commenced,” said Hicks, “I believe there would not have been a mortar attack on the annex in the morning because I believe the Libyans would have split. They would have been scared to death that we would have gotten a laser on them and killed them. “
Source: USA Today (May 09 2013)
Before long, embassy workers learned that "the ambassador was in a hospital controlled by Ansar al-Sharia, the group whose Twitter feed said it was leading the attack on the consulate," Hicks said.
Hicks said he received several phone calls about the ambassador saying "you can come get the ambassador, we know where he is," but Hicks was worried about "wading into a trap." Then he said they saw on the same Twitter feed as before that Ansar al-Sharia, an al-Qaeda-linked terrorist group, "was calling on an attack on our embassy in Tripoli."
Embassy personnel in Tripoli started making preparations to protect themselves, he said.
Source: The Nation (May 10 2013)
It appears, according to experts, that indeed Hicks not only fits the profile of a whistleblower but is also being unfairly retaliated against by his superiors. The unfortunate backdrop here is an administration with a troubling record of retribution against federal employees who speak out against official policy.
Hicks first testified that State Department officials would not allow him to speak with Republican members of Congress without a State Department lawyer present, which he said had never happened before when meeting with congressional delegations. He also said that Cheryl Mills, a top aide to then–Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, called him to voice displeasure that he had met with Republican Representative Jason Chaffetz without a lawyer anyhow:
originally posted by: Wrabbit2000
Gregory Hicks quoted a Special Forces commander as telling him, "I have never been so embarrassed in my life, that a State Department officer has bigger balls than somebody in the military," referring to his willingness to authorize the mission.
originally posted by: Greven
Of course, this same Mr. Hicks was the one who hung up on Ambassador Stevens' attempts to request help, before finally answering the third call (he justifying it by saying it was an unknown number). Frankly, I'm not sure I trust Hicks' testimony on anything.
originally posted by: stormson
a reply to: rickynews
so it seems you just want to know where the president was?
good question. not a scandal tho.
i liked how you want to hold obama to the fire for promising to bring those responsible to justice. guess bush saying the same thing and never doing it slipped your mind. you did mention that obama finished that job, so good on you.
my question is what questions are left to be asked?
heres a timeline of the attack btw: www.cnn.com... posted aug of last year!
originally posted by: displacedTexan
a reply to: Flatfish
yes there have been other attacks against US diplomatic facilities, yes other folks have died, but a majority of those attacks are quick attacks with car bombs which kill people out side of the facilities gates... Benghazi was a sustained 7 hour attack, in which we could/should have sent some response.
originally posted by: Daedalus
a reply to: Flatfish
in your haste to compose a snappy and crushing comeback, you missed the operative part of the quote..here, allow me to show you..
"the loss of a full rank Ambassador and the whole facility is ALMOST unprecedented."
he didn't say the fact that the embassy was attacked was almost unprecedented, he said that the loss of a full rank ambassador, and the whole facility is almost unprecedented...and he's right...
the last time the U.S. lost an ambassador, before benghazi was 1979...and i can't even remember the last time an embassy was overrun by hostiles, and completely destroyed...