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Violence is Good

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posted on May, 5 2014 @ 09:10 PM
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Violence is an ingrained part of being human, and willingness to commit violence is particularly important for a man. Is you aren't willing to commit violence, you aren't a man.

Violence is just as human as love, compassion, jealousy, greed, empathy, and fear, it is the physical expression of anger and hatred, just like sex is the physical manifestation of attraction or love. It's an essential part of our experiance in life. The negative view of violence these days is a symptom of a deeper malaise; we are becoming complacent, weak, and detached.

I tend to feel content, relaxed, and focused after committing violence, it likely that certain hormones are released that are meant to aid in recovery and rest, more proof that violence is an essential part of being human.

Along these same lines, war is necessary, good, and inevitable. Unavoidable. It's a fact of our exsistance, and it serves to resolve disputes, struggles for power and control, keeps the population at sustainable levels, and serves as a vital outlet for young male aggression. Unfortunately the type of modern warfare that prevails in these times is very cold and impersonal, and is ineffective at properly satisfying the violent urges of young men. War should be up close and personal, you should see the life leave your enemy's eyes as he bleeds out from the wound you inflicted.

My advice to every man here: do not shy away from fights like an effeminate coward, if the odds of winning are equal or in your favor, fight. If the odds are against you, don't abandon your honor, but also don't rashly charge in and get hurt. Look for an advantage.
I urge all men here to commit violence as often as it is prudent and the opportunity presents itself.




posted on May, 5 2014 @ 09:18 PM
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a reply to: Gallowglaich

BUT ANGER LEAD'S TO THE DARKSIDE

what would buddha do


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posted on May, 5 2014 @ 09:19 PM
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originally posted by: douglas5
a reply to: Gallowglaich

BUT ANGER LEAD'S TO THE DARKSIDE

what would budda do



Buddha was weak.



posted on May, 5 2014 @ 09:21 PM
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a reply to: Gallowglaich

Violence should be a last resort in every scenario. But let's say you cannot avoid a violent conflict, then take that person to the cleaners.



posted on May, 5 2014 @ 09:23 PM
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originally posted by: DarknStormy
a reply to: Gallowglaich

Violence should be a last resort in every scenario. But let's say you cannot avoid a violent conflict, then take that person to the cleaners.



What about people that take pleasure in it? Some people find great joy in an good old fashioned man to man fight.



posted on May, 5 2014 @ 09:24 PM
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a reply to: Gallowglaich

That is why he has a religion named after him and people still speak his name 2500 yrs later

Control your mind or it will control you



posted on May, 5 2014 @ 09:24 PM
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a reply to: Gallowglaich


Dumbest thing I have read.
You are a role model, do you give motivational speeches?




posted on May, 5 2014 @ 09:24 PM
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a reply to: Gallowglaich

Are you talking Fight Club or "the knock out game"

Big difference...



posted on May, 5 2014 @ 09:25 PM
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originally posted by: thesaneone
a reply to: Gallowglaich


Dumbest thing I have read.
You are a role model, do you give motivational speeches?



I am guessing you're some kind of metrosexual male?



posted on May, 5 2014 @ 09:25 PM
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originally posted by: LadySkadi
a reply to: Gallowglaich

Are you talking Fight Club or "the knock out game"

Big difference...


Fight club. Honorable combat between two consenting adult males.



posted on May, 5 2014 @ 09:32 PM
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a reply to: Gallowglaich

This would have been a great topic for the Debate Forum. I like what you said and the way you delivered your position.

S&F



posted on May, 5 2014 @ 09:33 PM
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There is nothing wrong with mastering defensive violence, which has offensive aspects to it but an entirely different mindset than what you're describing here

Violence isn't an essential part of being human, it's a byproduct of our environment

War could be non-exisitant if it weren't for this prevailing truth



posted on May, 5 2014 @ 09:35 PM
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originally posted by: yourmaker
There is nothing wrong with mastering defensive violence, which has offensive aspects to it but an entirely different mindset than what you're describing here

Violence isn't an essential part of being human, it's a byproduct of our environment

War could be non-exisitant if it weren't for this prevailing truth


Wrong, war will always be present, always be profuse and widespread. There is no alternative to war, we are not some divine transcendent species. We are animals.



posted on May, 5 2014 @ 09:41 PM
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originally posted by: Gallowglaich

originally posted by: yourmaker
There is nothing wrong with mastering defensive violence, which has offensive aspects to it but an entirely different mindset than what you're describing here

Violence isn't an essential part of being human, it's a byproduct of our environment

War could be non-exisitant if it weren't for this prevailing truth


Wrong, war will always be present, always be profuse and widespread. There is no alternative to war, we are not some divine transcendent species. We are animals.



We are animals, but have a capacity, no matter how small, for acting as a divine transcendent species

I am typing this with no ill intent to you. There are places in this universe where war can never prevail



posted on May, 5 2014 @ 09:43 PM
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originally posted by: yourmaker

originally posted by: Gallowglaich

originally posted by: yourmaker
There is nothing wrong with mastering defensive violence, which has offensive aspects to it but an entirely different mindset than what you're describing here

Violence isn't an essential part of being human, it's a byproduct of our environment

War could be non-exisitant if it weren't for this prevailing truth


Wrong, war will always be present, always be profuse and widespread. There is no alternative to war, we are not some divine transcendent species. We are animals.



We are animals, but have a capacity, no matter how small, for acting as a divine transcendent species

I am typing this with no ill intent to you. There are places in this universe where war can never prevail


Maybe you're right, but for now.... we are not past this condition.



posted on May, 5 2014 @ 09:45 PM
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Is you aren't willing to commit violence, you aren't a man - See more at: www.abovetopsecret.com...


You speak as tho you aren't a 'man' because someone doesn't want to fight?

Mindset like this is literally half the problem with the way people raise their kids. Womanizers, cut throat capitalists, and people who shove their way through lineups are grown up on this mentality of not being 'a man'.
It sickens me when people attempt to use the words "man up" to males, and then they wonder why feminism has gone astray from it's original roots.

Take a look at this TED talk from a male feminist, and he can explain to me better on what I am trying to say.



Violence doesn't solve anything, it creates more problems. 'manning up' is such a phony stereotype of the typical male egotistical D.bag. But as someone said, before it should be a LAST resort, but violence within' our species is just plain dumb.
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posted on May, 5 2014 @ 09:50 PM
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originally posted by: Gallowglaich



war will always be present
Are you sure ? How do you know that ?


always be profuse
Why profuse, to what extent ?


and widespread
Why and how do you know that?


There is no alternative to war
Are you saying war is a permanent process, whether you eat sleep play write invent chat ?


we are not some divine transcendent species
How do you know that ?


We are animals
To what extent are we animals ? Don't we have any exclusive capacities ?



posted on May, 5 2014 @ 09:51 PM
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originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: Gallowglaich




Is you aren't willing to commit violence, you aren't a man - See more at: www.abovetopsecret.com...


You speak as tho you aren't a 'man' because someone doesn't want to fight?

Mindset like this is literally half the problem with the way people raise their kids. Womanizers, cut throat capitalists, and people who shove their way through lineups are grown up on this mentality of not being 'a man'.
It sickens me when people attempt to use the words "man up" to males, and then they wonder why feminism has gone astray from it's original roots.

Take a look at this TED talk from a male feminist, and he can explain to me better on what I am trying to say.



Violence doesn't solve anything, it creates more problems. 'manning up' is such a phony stereotype of the typical male egotistical D.bag.


This is just a coward's justification for cowardice. I am not advocating violence against women or children. In fact, I've already stated twice that I'm referring to fair, consenting violence between two adult men. I don't condone any kind of indiscriminate, wanton aggression toward innocent people. I am not advocating criminality. Please get this into your head and don't accuse me of it again.
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posted on May, 5 2014 @ 10:01 PM
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Violence is just as human as love, compassion, jealousy, greed, empathy, and fear, it is the physical expression of anger and hatred, just like sex is the physical manifestation of attraction or love. -
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No.

The ability to NOT use violence despite experiencing anger, fear, hate etc. is what makes us human.

I am honestly not sure whether you're just a smarta$$ trolling in a sarcastic way or whether your post is meant seriously.

Tell me, what is "good" about violence? How does it benefit me if I hurt/kill you..rather than seeking a constructive solution?
What does violence create, what do I (or you) gain from it?

What about those "violent urges" of men or "young men"? In how far is it good when young men give in to your alleged urges to commit violence? Is your idea of a perfect world that we're all running around with a big club and smash each others skulls in when we have an opportunity?
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posted on May, 5 2014 @ 10:05 PM
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a reply to: Gallowglaich

By you just bringing up the words of 'women and children' shows you have the mentality of someone who would tell their son to 'man up' and use violence, but only against two 'male' figures.
Violence is something that can be avoided, what's wrong with using words? What's wrong with walking away from a conflict? Violence ans aggression start in the home, and when people have the mentality of using violence it DOES bring in innocent victims, your family, children, friends, etc. Would you want your children or grand children to see you use violence against someone?

It's a far deeper subject than most people can comprehend, it's a societal issue, it's a family issue. If people took it upon themselves to avoid confrontations and raise their children right, educate, and live happily, we would not need to have a violent mindset for any reason.

Now. I know you are looking deep into the issue back to a primal sort of way, but advocating that, yes we can use force to defend ourselves in a manner you have, isn't the right way.




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