a reply to: Xcathdra
Thank you for the clauses.
Ok, so we don't have to go back to the matter, Russian forces were in Crimea legally as per the agreement over the Sevastopol naval base. So we can
immediately cross Invision, simply because
1.The act of invading, especially the entrance of an armed force into a territory to conquer.
2.A large-scale onset of something injurious or harmful, such as a disease.
So if you are there on legal grounds (the Kharkov agreement), it can by no means be called an invasion. I could send you the text of the agreement,
but I'm afraid it would be no good to you, because it's in Ukranian and Russian. If you trust autotranslate and bear the gibberish heresy it spills
out, you can try. Here's the link. In the end you will see the list of vehicles, equipment, planes, guns and etc. that Russia is allowed to deploy in
Crimea. And Russia did not raise their forces. They used what they had.
Anyhow, the agreement.
Now, the agreement does not specify, where these "assets" can or cannot go. There is only a list of cities where they are deployed in. "Troops are not
to be outside bases except" is not there in the text. If it's not specifically indicated in the contract, it is not an infringement of the contract.
Also, transit is a vague term. My car broke down and while it's being fixed, I stepped out to protect the machanic. Transit? Yes. Transit it is. It's
all a matter of perspective. As for the rest of the story - we will never know. You can't hit(or file to the int. court) what you can't see. For me,
that story with Crimea is not crystal clear. It was dirty in many ways. But it's still innocent compared to the bombing of Belgrad and invasion of
Iraq, when the US simply spit on the UN resolution. Hey, they didn't shout half as much as they shouted about Crimea. Bad Saddam? More people die
every day now, than they did in the days of Saddam, so I judge by what's worse. Fight fire with napalm is not my style, sorry.
Also, and I've said it before in this thread, Crimea is an autonomous republic. Or in other terms, a Sovereign state, which delegated the burden of
governing it's territory to Ukraine (a Rent, If you must). It had it's own constitution back in 1992, until that constitution came into conflict with
Ukraine's new constitution. It had a president back then, but again, presidency was abolished due to above mentioned reasons. BUT. The territorial
status of Crimea wav never revised. It still remains, even after it joined Russia, an autonomous republic. Autonomous.
1: of, relating to, or marked by autonomy
2a : having the right or power of self-government
b : undertaken or carried on without outside control : self-contained
3a : existing or capable of existing independently
b : responding, reacting, or developing independently of the whole
4: controlled by the autonomic nervous system
— au·ton·o·mous·ly adverb
So there we go. Right now I'm watching Crimea celebrate May 9...you can't fake something like this. They're happy in their own way. Meanwhile, some
couple of humdred kms away, people are dying, assaulted by their own military. The contrast...
Xcathdra, what is the US doing in Ukraine? It has no business there. Leave it to Europe. But they won't. They want it for themselves. This is what
worris me most of all. It is a game for some and the suffering living people for others. I can kill. Sure I can. It's not difficult. Psychologically,
even. If you must - you must. But it's so vile that I'd prefer not to and leave it as a last and final resort. Seems like it's a no-brainer for some
in Ukraine, which is a pity. They seem to be fond of fire over there.
East Ukraine must be a clue to those who think everything is allright in Ukraine and that Crimea is an annexation.
As for the insignias, there is quire a number of Russian PMCs. FYI, so if Putin said these guys were Russian troops, maybe it IS so, but I'm still
(honestly, Xcathdra) in doubt. They didn't look to me like ordinary military troops. Maybe they are, I dunno. But the first hand info was about
Russian contractors. The vehicles they used are available for purchase by civilians. You need a "heavy truck" class driving license, because it's so
damn heavy but that's not the point.
You could dismantle all military equipment and rent them just for this op. There are many ways. I'm just saying that the fact Putin didn't use the
"yes we have military in Crimea as per the Kharkov agreement and becuse of instability in the Ukraine, we were forced to widen the perimeter around
our bases" card, there may be something more complicated about the "little green men". A smart move. Use and hide. No one needs to know. That would
explain the absense of insignias. The Russian Crimea regimen would, IMO wear them. Why hide the obvious, do you agree?
edit on 9-5-2014 by
thegeck because: Couple of typos. Sorry, guys. Promise to read next time. Got to run.