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originally posted by: rickynews
originally posted by: gusdynamite
a reply to: rickynews
Atheists are communists, now?
Not all atheists are communists, yet there is a direct tie, based on the world historical record, that most communists are atheists. Does that mean most atheists are communists? I don't necessarily think so, but there is no denying the fact that both atheism and communism have been historically aligned and oftentimes in near lock step throughout world history - specifically in terms of their God-less belief system and God-less religiosity. And make no mistake, Atheism is a Religion.
originally posted by: Daedalus
a reply to: rickynews
ok, and i hadn't thought of that (was starting to get tired, lol)
i'm not even against PUBLIC prayer...if you're at a restaurant, and you need to say a prayer before you eat, or whatever, fine, that's fantastic...just don't ask me to participate...
as i've already said, religious activities should have no part in official governmental functions. there shouldn't be the ten commandments on court houses, there shouldn't be any mention of "god" on our currency, or in our pledge of allegiance, there shouldn't be any prayers said before meetings of government officials(on official business)...
i don't necessarily have a problem with people having religious beliefs. i DO have a problem with people with religious beliefs injecting those beliefs, and practices into governmental function, as that has the potential to impact ME, and i don't share those beliefs. which all goes back to my original stance; "i don't mind that you have religious beliefs, just don't try to force them on me" ...i mean, that's the same way i look at homosexuality, and drug use, and a number of other things... i'm not gonna discriminate against you, because of that thing that you do, that i don't do....you're cool with me, as long as you don't ask me to participate, or try to force it on me. and i think that's a very fair way of thinking..
originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: rickynews
And praying in a public place is important how?
We are talking about praying in a government building.
Since you want to bring up flag burning, could I burn a flag in the building that they pray in?
originally posted by: boymonkey74
a reply to: rickynews
give it a couple of generations and you will find religion will die off.
Already happening in the western world.
originally posted by: grainofsand
a reply to: rickynews
What a ridiculous generalised statement about people who do not believe in gods - communists? Really?
Where is YOUR evidence for that? I do not believe in any gods but do not support communism...silly unsubstantiated stereotype at best, sheesh.
originally posted by: grainofsand
a reply to: rickynews
I read it and saw how ridiculous your slur was when I replied previously.
You cannot equate lack of belief in any gods to automatic love of communism and tyranny, but then you probably know that and are just sharing your assertions to muddy the water when you have no real case against those who do not believe in gods.
*Edit*
Much evidence of religious oppression and killing of non-believers of all flavours, but it doesn't equate that all believers want to commit acts of violence.
See how silly your claims are in reverse.
originally posted by: rickynews
originally posted by: grainofsand
a reply to: rickynews
I read it and saw how ridiculous your slur was when I replied previously.
You cannot equate lack of belief in any gods to automatic love of communism and tyranny, but then you probably know that and are just sharing your assertions to muddy the water when you have no real case against those who do not believe in gods.
*Edit*
Much evidence of religious oppression and killing of non-believers of all flavours, but it doesn't equate that all believers want to commit acts of violence.
See how silly your claims are in reverse.
The historical record clearly demonstrates a direct link between Communism and Atheism. If you want to pretend otherwise, or remain in a state of denial, that's your prerogative I suppose.
originally posted by: bitsforbytes
a reply to: Daedalus
All theories begin with beliefs. ALL.