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originally posted by: rickynews
originally posted by: boymonkey74
a reply to: rickynews
Thing is plenty of people find God without religion and the rubbish that goes with it.
I believe in God but I do not want religion in state affairs nor education classes nor would I vote for anyone who asks God what to do.
Atheists have a belief in that there is "No-God" and Religions have a belief that there is indeed a God. Atheists put their faith in themselves and science, and Religions put their faith in God and their doctrines. A belief is a belief, and Atheists adhere to their religious belief system no different than those who believe in God or their faith adhere to theirs.
Whats funny is, he and others like him are the first to tell you: "i dont care what an atheist thinks".
originally posted by: uncommitted
originally posted by: rickynews
originally posted by: boymonkey74
a reply to: rickynews
Thing is plenty of people find God without religion and the rubbish that goes with it.
I believe in God but I do not want religion in state affairs nor education classes nor would I vote for anyone who asks God what to do.
Atheists have a belief in that there is "No-God" and Religions have a belief that there is indeed a God. Atheists put their faith in themselves and science, and Religions put their faith in God and their doctrines. A belief is a belief, and Atheists adhere to their religious belief system no different than those who believe in God or their faith adhere to theirs.
Where do you get off on trying to define what other people do and don't do? Having faith doesn't mean you have no belief in science.
originally posted by: captaintyinknots
Whats funny is, he and others like him are the first to tell you: "i dont care what an atheist thinks".
originally posted by: uncommitted
originally posted by: rickynews
originally posted by: boymonkey74
a reply to: rickynews
Thing is plenty of people find God without religion and the rubbish that goes with it.
I believe in God but I do not want religion in state affairs nor education classes nor would I vote for anyone who asks God what to do.
Atheists have a belief in that there is "No-God" and Religions have a belief that there is indeed a God. Atheists put their faith in themselves and science, and Religions put their faith in God and their doctrines. A belief is a belief, and Atheists adhere to their religious belief system no different than those who believe in God or their faith adhere to theirs.
Where do you get off on trying to define what other people do and don't do? Having faith doesn't mean you have no belief in science.
then he obsesses over them, and tries to tell them, not only what it is that they think, but that they are wrong in thinking it.
Typical religious zealot. Hypocrisy/trolling to the highest order.
i agree with your post, for the most part. however, one clear example of something that was done by christians, because of their religion, is the crusades...
i think we can all agree that this was a most distasteful undertaking by today's moral standards..
originally posted by: Daedalus
a reply to: Wrabbit2000
Mr. Bunny, Sir..
i agree with your post, for the most part. however, one clear example of something that was done by christians, because of their religion, is the crusades...
i think we can all agree that this was a most distasteful undertaking by today's moral standards..
additionally, to windword, and ricky...."miracle" is a word used to describe some thing, or event, that we can't explain yet..
people with lazy minds choose to attribute it to "god", people with diligent minds choose to try and figure it out.
Like what miracles, bro?
originally posted by: rickynews
How does science or humanity account for, and explain, the countless Miracles?
You've got it exactly wrong. Nobody knows. Maybe no one ever will. I recognize the gaps in our knowledge, and I don't feel the need to fill that gap with fantasy. I don't know if there is some kind of creator. I don't have any reason to rule it out. Nor do I have any reason to rule it in. (what's the opposite of rule out)?
How about phenomenons, natural or otherwise? Has science ever been wrong, and corrected itself? Has humanity ever been wrong? What came first, the chicken or the egg? What makes the world go round and round for millions of years? How does "nothing" come from "nothing" Do you have a scientific explanation? How about the Big Bang? If it all started with a golf ball sized piece of matter, then how did the matter get there in the first place? The list is endless, and goes on and on and on and on....Nobody can figure out Almighty God, so it seems to me Atheists simply default to the misguided thinking of "since my limited human intelligence can't figure out that there is a God, He must not exist".
additionally, to windword, and ricky...."miracle" is a word used to describe some thing, or event, that we can't explain yet..
originally posted by: windword
a reply to: Daedalus
additionally, to windword, and ricky...."miracle" is a word used to describe some thing, or event, that we can't explain yet..
Yes, well, the storm that many attribute to America's victory in the War of 1812 was considered a miracle, but we all know it was just a fortunate coincidence.
originally posted by: Daedalus
a reply to: uncommitted
call it simplistic, but the crusades were, in it's most basic description, christians killing the living hell out of muslims, jews, etc, because they had a different invisible friend...it was very much about religion..
originally posted by: Tearman
Rickynews, there is no point in you going on about communisim. We're not communists. In all the atheist related media I've seen, I've never seen the conversation turn to communism. And above all, communism has nothing whatsoever to do with the opposition to this ruling, or why the lawsuits were originally made.
And people, stop talking about historical masacres as if it has anything at all to do with this thread topic. You're just looking for an excuse to stop listening to another point of view.
Aren't you trying to stop people listening to another point of view by saying that? This is a discussion forum, I'm sorry but you don't apply the rules.edit on 9-5-2014 by uncommitted because: (no reason given)edit on 9-5-2014 by uncommitted because: (no reason given)