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Supreme Court: Opening prayers at council meetings constitutional
The Supreme Court has upheld the right of local officials to open town council meetings with prayer, ruling that this does not violate the Constitution even if the prayers routinely stress Christianity.
The court said in a 5-4 decision Monday that the content of the prayers is not critical as long as officials make a good-faith effort at inclusion.
The ruling was a victory for the town of Greece, N.Y., outside of Rochester.
"The prayer opportunity in this case must be evaluated against the backdrop of historical practice," the majority wrote in its opinion. "As a practice that has long endured, legislative prayer has become part of our heritage and tradition, part of our expressive idiom, similar to the Pledge of Allegiance, inaugural prayer, or the recitation of 'God save the United States and this honorable Court' at the opening of this Court's sessions."
The majority justices further argued that the intended audience is not "the public but lawmakers themselves."
In 1983, the court upheld an opening prayer in the Nebraska legislature and said that prayer is part of the nation's fabric, not a violation of the First Amendment. Monday's ruling was consistent with the earlier one.
Justice Anthony Kennedy, writing for the majority, said the prayers are ceremonial and in keeping with the nation's traditions.
"The inclusion of a brief, ceremonial prayer as part of a larger exercise in civic recognition suggests that its purpose and effect are to acknowledge religious leaders and the institutions they represent, rather than to exclude or coerce nonbelievers," Kennedy said.
The American Center for Law and Justice, which filed a brief in the case backing the town of Greece, applauded the decision.
"This is a sound decision that recognizes the significance of our nation's heritage and tradition," Jay Sekulow, chief counsel of the ACLJ, said in a statement.
But Justice Elena Kagan, in a dissent for the court's four liberal justices, said the case differs significantly from the 1983 decision because "Greece's town meetings involve participation by ordinary citizens, and the invocations given -- directly to those citizens -- were predominantly sectarian in content."
A federal appeals court in New York ruled that Greece violated the Constitution by opening nearly every meeting over an 11-year span with prayers that stressed Christianity.
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originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: rickynews
I agree with the ruling, but I am troubled by it.
It appears that many decisions lately (perhaps it has always been the case, dunno) have been done with the decisions being politically ideological in nature than just a direct interpretation of the law.
Which is fine, unless you happen to have an ideology different than that of the majority.
The Supreme Court appears just as biased as our representatives that we elect.
And that bothers me.
A whole bunch.
"that its purpose and effect are to acknowledge religious leaders and the institutions they represent, rather than to exclude or coerce nonbelievers," Kennedy said
originally posted by: StallionDuck
I'm with you guys..
Why in the world should it bother anyone that I want to pray? Is there fear that lightning bolts will come down and smash them? Do they think I will convert them against their will just because I pray? I don't care if they don't pray, so why should anyone care if I do? They'll just laugh and snub me anyways for my beliefs, so why force me to not to do something I'm not forcing them to do?
This is so damn silly... and they call christians crazy and overbearing.
originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
a reply to: rickynews
Two women brought this suit. One was atheist but the other was Jewish. Their complaint was not that there was a prayer, but that it was always a Christian prayer.
Nowhere in either story do they talk about atheists... You've got your story all screwed up.
But nice attempt at a slam on atheists.
The poor and sorry Atheists…they just can’t seem to square and force their God-less agenda onto the rest of American society. - See more at: www.abovetopsecret.com...
originally posted by: InverseLookingGlass
a reply to: rickynews
The poor and sorry Atheists…they just can’t seem to square and force their God-less agenda onto the rest of American society. - See more at: www.abovetopsecret.com...
That's the opinion of someone that prays to an invisible man in the sky who can do nothing for you in this world but wants you to believe the next world will be different.
Can you explain why anyone should value your assessment of reality? Why would a person that is not internally grounded in this world, be suitable for any leadership position in anything except for the church? Next, you'll be asking tax money to go into the construction of a giant ark.
originally posted by: rickynews
originally posted by: StallionDuck
I'm with you guys..
Why in the world should it bother anyone that I want to pray? Is there fear that lightning bolts will come down and smash them? Do they think I will convert them against their will just because I pray? I don't care if they don't pray, so why should anyone care if I do? They'll just laugh and snub me anyways for my beliefs, so why force me to not to do something I'm not forcing them to do?
This is so damn silly... and they call christians crazy and overbearing.
You are on to it. Atheism is a Religion in and of itself, yet they have an agenda to restrict the practice or exercise of Religious practices while they hide behind the false notion of "don't pray, because it offends me". In reality, its Pathetic.
originally posted by: rickynews
U.S. Supreme Court Ruling: Atheists Lose…Again.
The poor and sorry Atheists…they just can’t seem to square and force their God-less agenda onto the rest of American society.
It is reported today that the U.S. Supreme Court has once again ruled in favor of Religious Freedom in these United States of America. When the Supreme Court rules, it sets a precedence for future rulings, and this ruling will be no different.
One of these days, Atheists will need to accept the fact that there is a distinct difference between “Religious Freedom” protected by the U.S. Constitution and “Freedom from Religion” as propagated by the Atheists who seek a Communist society for America.
originally posted by: rickynews
We can't see Air and Oxygen either, yet we know it exists, and we all most definitely need it.