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originally posted by: links234
a reply to: smithjustinb
It's not really about noise though. It's a public nuisance when one of your neighbors regularly takes up all the parking on your block.
Have you even bothered considering the other side of the argument or do you just default to 'tyranny'?
It's not really about noise though. It's a public nuisance when one of your neighbors regularly takes up all the parking on your block.
Have you even bothered considering the other side of the argument or do you just default to 'tyranny'?
originally posted by: smithjustinb
originally posted by: links234
a reply to: smithjustinb
It's not really about noise though. It's a public nuisance when one of your neighbors regularly takes up all the parking on your block.
Have you even bothered considering the other side of the argument or do you just default to 'tyranny'?
As long as they aren't in your own drive way or blocking your drive way, what's the problem? If they are in your driveway, call a tow truck.
To answer your question, I haven't always been a conservative. But, I grew up and realized how futile and ignorant the other options were. I learned the value of freedom. Freedom is worth fighting for. I consider each side of an argument before I make a comment. If I think freedom is being restricted and the population is being controlled, I speak out against it because that's not what America was founded upon.
Freedom is the greatest thing an individual can have, and its liberals like the legislators in Virginia that are single-handedly ruining our quality of life and the freedom many of us who are awake value so highly. For those who understand the value of freedom, its things like this that make us puke in our mouths. Yeah I considered the other side. Its more of the same crap. One small legislation after another, your rights are being revoked, and you willingly support the herding. Disgraceful.
originally posted by: borntowatch
49 people seems like a lot
I wouldnt be happy if my neighbours had 49 people coming over daily, even weekly.
I live in a residential zone, not a commercial zone.
If a valid personal reason can be established for such a gathering then thats fine, but over 49 people regularly, that sounds commercial.
Maybe the regulations should give valid reasonsn as to purpose
originally posted by: MarlinGrace
a reply to: Vasa Croe
Being the tin hat that I am, currently residing in VA. Did anyone notice that Fairfax is about 15 miles or so from DC? If I was going to reduce/eliminate protest in DC I might want to start at the furthest outskirts and work my way in. Kind of put your toe in the water thing and look for the depth of the backlash. Of course with the traffic in and around DC a root canal would be preferable to assembling.
originally posted by: kaylaluv
I don't want frequent large gatherings next door to me either. My neighborhood is usually quiet and peaceful, and I want it to stay that way. There are public places where one could have large gatherings - like parks and beaches. You could also rent facilities, like a community club house, or even use a church for your gathering. Those are all public places, and I believe this law only affects gatherings in homes/residential neighborhoods. So, you are not prevented from gathering -- you are just prevented from gathering in a home/neighborhood.
Having said that, I agree that we already have laws that pretty much deal with this. If some guy living on my street has a large party every weekend, with cars parked all along the street, and lots of noise -- I call the cops and they get him for disturbing the peace. If you have your large gathering with no cars and no noise, then I don't think anyone would notice or care. So just have a "stealth gathering" and you're fine!
Your rights stop when they infringe on mine (the right to live in my home without constant disruptions of noise and blocking of the street).
originally posted by: butcherguy
a reply to: kaylaluv
There are already means to limit gatherings in public areas. You must get permits to assemble when having a demonstration or parade in public places.
This is about limiting the right to assemble on your own property.
If you have no right to assemble people on your own property, what right do you have to assemble?
Just not more than 49 people, and not more than 3 times in a 40 day period.
There are limits to everything. You can own a gun, but you are limited to how you can use it. You can't just shoot anyone anytime you want, can you?
originally posted by: butcherguy
a reply to: kaylaluv
I did say that this law would limit rights.
Just not more than 49 people, and not more than 3 times in a 40 day period.
These are limits.
Slippery slope here.
You want a loud assembly?