The Ravages of Feminism

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posted on Nov, 28 2004 @ 07:42 PM
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Makow-Why Men Are Losing
Interest in Women
The Ravages of Feminism

By Henry Makow, Ph.D.
9-29-3



ABC TV's flagship public affairs program "20/20" Friday was devoted to the "biggest secret of American marriage."

abcnews.go.com...

"As many as 20% of American marriages are sexless," host Barbara Walters intoned. "It's not women who don't want sex as you might expect, it's the men!"

The program focused on two couples. In both cases, feminist mind control is responsible for their problems but the TV show wouldn't admit this.
One man was married to an attractive 30-something woman who is a stripper! Reporter John Stossel thought this made her husband's indifference even more astonishing. The show's marital therapist, Michele Weiner-Davis, ignored this as an explanation for his impotence.
Feminist groupthink says a woman's sexuality is just like a man's, hers to enjoy (or sell). In this essentially lesbian mindset, the male's ability to respond to such a woman is irrelevant.
I beg to differ. The stripper's husband is impotent because he is a cuckold. Sex is an act of possession. The husband cannot possess his wife because she gives herself to hundreds of other men every day. She makes her living this way.
When a woman's sexuality is her own, essentially it belongs to any man. She becomes public property, which is what the framers of the Communist Manifesto envisaged. (Children also would belong to the state.) She is less fit for a long-term monogamous relationship.
A woman best thrives in the context of a loving marriage. Despite what feminism says, most women want to belong to one man, their husband.

(Mod edit... please don't post complete articles. That's against the rules of the board.)



An Australian man recently wrote to me: "For too long I have made girlfriends insecure by not telling them what I wanted because of a fear of appearing overbearing."
Men need to assert their just leadership and dump women who don't like it. There are plenty of fish in the sea and believe me they are biting. With patience and firmness, some feminists can be saved. The rest should be thrown back.
Generally speaking, men need to figure out what they want to accomplish with their life. We need to ask God what He wants us to do. Then define the role we want our wife to play and find a woman who is eager to play it.
This is want women want too. Women are attracted to dynamic men whom they cannot control. He must have a wholesome vision of life where she is cherished for her contribution.

FEMINIST ROAD KILL

Feminist propaganda teaches that sex roles are merely "stereotypes". As a result, millions of people are clueless about their sexual identities and suffer from arrested development. I was one of them.
At age 53 normally I would have had at least three children. Instead, I have one child and have been divorced three times. It took me until age 50 to figure out what was happening and make a successful marriage.


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CONCLUSION

The woman's role is to empower a man. He uses this power for her benefit. Together they are a team. Heterosexuality works this way.
We cannot conceive that the people who lead society wish us harm. But I'm afraid this is the case. Generally feminism has resulted in the degradation of women, family, and society.
Communism and Nazism were both dress rehearsals for the New World Order. But remember: Communism and Nazism both failed. The New World Order, a.k.a. "globalism" will fail too. The human race cannot be enslaved.


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Henry Makow Ph.D. is the inventor of the board game Scruples and author of "A Long Way to go for a Date." His articles on feminism and the new world order appear at his web site www.savethemales.ca He enjoys receiving your comments at henry@savethemales.ca


Article Link: www.thetruthseeker.co.uk...



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posted on Nov, 28 2004 @ 07:48 PM
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Ahhhhahahaha hahahaha hooooo...

Man. That's funny stuff. A mental phallus? Somehow I doubt that a mental phallus is a reason for men not wanting sex.

I wish both men and women could drop the BS and just be straightforward and respect one another without being overbearing, too masculine, too manipulative, etc. I wish sex wasn't a reward or withheld for getting your way or not around the house. Men and women both have their own set of issues and problems, and I don't think 'feminism' is one of them.



posted on Nov, 28 2004 @ 08:05 PM
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There's more of it at "savethemales.com"

Yeah... I got a giggle out of it, too, RB. The guy reaches 56, he doesn't have the 3 kids (instead he has 3 marriages and 1 kid) -- and of COURSE it's the fault of the women. They probably started out sweet and submissive and then got uppity ideas. And they probably hated being treated as an overgrown child.

Makow is a "one-trick" pony, and everything boils down to "I'm being persecuted by Evil Horrible Feminazis!" Thankfully the Real Men out there aren't terrified by Real Women.

(and my Real Man sure hasn't lost interest in me after 31 years!)

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posted on Nov, 28 2004 @ 09:05 PM
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Funny how male satisfaction - and hence the continuation of the human race - always comes back around to women: barefoot, pregnant and property.

I'm still trying to figure out (not too hard, cuz the whole post is wacked) how if a woman's sexuality is her own, it belongs to every man. If a woman's sexuality is her own, it means she's not stuck in a dysfunctional relationship where a man has power over her body. Men hate that. Hence the new drive to ban abortion. And all the advertising and movies that set women up for wacked ideals of what beauty is. Keep women questioning and insecure, they'll have to lean on a man. If that doesn't work, knock 'em up, pay them 73 cents to every dollar a man makes.

In some ways, a woman's sexuality is every man's. Try walking down the street in summer without some jerks trying to assert their right to harrass you. Try walking into an auto parts store without a male clerk assuming you're there with a note from hubby. Muslim countries make women wear a veil or burkha to separate the owned women from the easy pickins. In this country, every woman is subject to male BS, so no veil necessary.

Feminism is the concept that women have the same rights and responsibilities as men. If that scares you, you have a very messed up idea of freedom.

--Saerlaith



posted on Nov, 28 2004 @ 09:11 PM
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Humm I got a mind of my own and my husband knows it, but after 24 years he stopped trying to change me.


I told him "you either with me or against me"



posted on Nov, 28 2004 @ 09:24 PM
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Originally posted by Anyndur
Feminist groupthink says a woman's sexuality is just like a man's, When a woman's sexuality is her own, essentially it belongs to any man.


So, a man's sexuality is his own... but a woman's isn't... Tell me, why is that?
And if a womans sexuality is her own, thus belongs to all men, does the same apply to a man?


In this essentially lesbian mindset


How is this an essentially lesbian mindset?




A woman best thrives in the context of a loving marriage. Despite what feminism says, most women want to belong to one man, their husband.


Could it be a man saying this?
How can you generalize and say what most women want?
Plain and simple, you CAN'T.


Then define the role we want our wife to play and find a woman who is eager to play it.
This is want women want too. Women are attracted to dynamic men whom they cannot control.


That's it! Find a woman who is eager to fit YOUR world view (which isn't necessarily how things REALLY are)
Make it so things are as you believe.



The human race cannot be enslaved.


Of course not, how silly. Only half of it can, right?





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posted on Nov, 28 2004 @ 09:34 PM
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I want to make a comment
but all I can do is shake my head and...

Are "feminists" being called "strippers" or "lesbians"? That's just mean.
"Sex is an act of possession"? hmmm I thought it was supposed to be
more an "act of shareing" or maybe an "act of love". Wow.
"Sex is an act of possession" to a man???



posted on Nov, 28 2004 @ 09:34 PM
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When a woman's sexuality is her own, essentially it belongs to any man. She becomes public property, which is what the framers of the Communist Manifesto envisaged. (Children also would belong to the state.) She is less fit for a long-term monogamous relationship.

Boy, is this off-base...how insecure.
When a woman's sexuality is her own, she belongs to herself. At that point, she can participate fully and lovingly in a long-term relationship. Assuming she meets another in tune with their own sexuality.
It seems to be that a monogamous relationship would help both partners develop sexually. Seems like that would have to happen once the initial being "in lust" turn to the permanent being "in love".

Some men got it ALL wrong. Sex is NOT about conquests or how many partners you have.



posted on Nov, 28 2004 @ 09:38 PM
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My wife says she doesnt want to be equal to me........she is quite happy bossing me around


I might get flamed for this but I do believe the changing sex/family/gender roles does I believe cause confusion amoung a lot of people.

Whither it is good or bad the future will tell



posted on Nov, 28 2004 @ 09:39 PM
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Originally posted by Byrd
There's more of it at "savethemales.com"

Makow is a "one-trick" pony, and everything boils down to "I'm being persecuted by Evil Horrible Feminazis!" Thankfully the Real Men out there aren't terrified by Real Women.


Aaah -savethemales also known as "why I'm not getting any"


It's really quite sad though. Rather than evaluate his own views and prejudices it is easier to blame women and say they are the ones with the problem.

But what do I know - I've simply been brainwashed by the feminist movement in order to reach our goal of total male enslavement. I wonder what this guy would say if he knew that the NWO order is actually the New Womens Order and that resistance is futile.

...wait - I've said too much.

B.



posted on Nov, 28 2004 @ 09:47 PM
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Age of the goddess has returned I feel. But if you really want to take the power out of the females sails and destroy the mystery of the EVE spell,,,simply go to this link and it will take away its magick rendering it powerless.

*edit*


A Warning for a scientific observation...lol Yet your small minds are trained to see it as offensive and porno like


Thats outstanding

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[edit on 28-11-2004 by kinglizard]



posted on Nov, 28 2004 @ 10:07 PM
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Originally posted by Amuk
I might get flamed for this but I do believe the changing sex/family/gender roles does I believe cause confusion amoung a lot of people.


Confusion among people who are stuck (or stick to) in 'traditional' ways, you mean?

I see that, too.



posted on Nov, 28 2004 @ 11:43 PM
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Women have come along way since the 50's Tammy stood by ole George as long as she could, and took his crap while doing it. Finally she reached a point that she could no longer, and decided to be "her own women"
Before you talk about women and all the problems they cause to mens sexuality, think about how many women had to put up with being "the little woman" and was forced into taking thier rights to life back from a man.
Life as a woman was'nt always as it is today. We want to love who we want to and how we want to. You can bet if she is not happy at home wearing beige, she will venture out into the world and find many pretty colors. Maybe if more men would try to understand women they would find it easier to accept them for who they are and not go onto national tv and make an azz of themselves whinning about thier non-performance in the haybag. Men these days act as if they have more hormones than the female going through menopause.
Mind you not all me, but way to many. This may be due to thier mothers unwilling lack of desire to cut the cord...whole other subject.
Basics...know a woman before you marry her, then ya can't say ya had no clue as to what you were getting
And if ya find you got something you did'nt bargin for, kwitcherbychen, get a divorce and move on man.
Yes this is directed at the MAN that posted this STUPID thread.



posted on Nov, 28 2004 @ 11:51 PM
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I'm a woman and I've noticed that feminism has wreaked havoc on society.

Feminist Myths Debunked

Also:

Ladies Against Feminism



posted on Nov, 28 2004 @ 11:56 PM
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Originally posted by Amethyst
I'm a woman and I've noticed that feminism has wreaked havoc on society.



Rather than using links to tell us what you say you've notived.. why don't you tell us what you have noticed personally?
How has feminism wrought havoc on society?



posted on Nov, 29 2004 @ 12:09 AM
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Feminism has helped bring about the sexual revolution back in the 1960s. It's also brought us the Roe travesty in 1973.

They want to do away with marriage. To have a stable society you need a stable family unit. This means a married couple and their children.

What do you see now that you didn't see 50 years ago, for example? Both parents working outside the home and putting their children into daycare--which is NOT qualified to raise children. Single mothers with a whole bunch of kids, often by different fathers (I have a couple of cousins who are in that situation), living on welfare. The divorce rate has skyrocketed--and it's mostly women who do the leaving. We have more juvenile delinquents. Since Roe vs. Wade, the frequency of child abuse has shot straight up.

My son may be in a minority--having both parents married, long before he was born. That's sad.

Turn it on Maury Povich. Just about every day that guy has something about DNA tests revealing if that guy is that baby's father. These feminazis tell us we don't need men, we don't need marriage, go ahead and sleep around.

The feminazis also claim that if a wife/mother isn't working outside the home making money, she's worthless, or even a parasite. Since when is a person's worth determined by their paycheck? I'm a stay-at-home wife and mother and I would MUCH rather be here than working outside the home--which I have done!

Another claim of the feminazis is that children are blank slates and that gender roles are stereotypes. Wrong on both counts! Boys tend to act like boys and girls like girls--without any prompting. In fact, I encourage this in my son by getting him Bob the Builder stuff and things I think boys would like. It's a combination of nature and nurture. Males and females are not identical. Males and females each have their own strengths and weaknesses--that's why you hear about how lousy we women parallel-park and the fact that we can't pee out a campfire.
Males are more inclined to act like complete fools on the road in their ricers than females. As the saying goes, boys will be boys.

I think I ought to go make my husband a sammich....



posted on Nov, 29 2004 @ 12:10 AM
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Originally posted by Amethyst
I'm a woman and I've noticed that feminism has wreaked havoc on society.

Feminist Myths Debunked


Well, I think you will find that the other feminists here (as well as myself) are actually pro-marriage, and most of us have good, stable, long-term marriages (31 years here... and I know Marg has been married a long time, too.)

I'd have to argue with some of that "debunking." My grandmother and great aunt talked about not being able to vote and the trouble they got into when they finally went to vote. Frankly, I think that all adults should be able to express their voting rights.

And the "women not being able to own property/buy things" -- again, there's a lot of us who went through this before the feminist movement. As late as 1974, some car dealerships wouldn't sell me a car unless I had a man along with me.

I'm sure you didn't go through any of those things -- just like my daughter didn't. And if you came from a middle or upper class background, you might not be aware that poor women have always had to work outside the home. You might not be aware of some of the horrible, miserable abuse they put up with.

The film, "Long Walk Home" is a good one and is actually not overstated about conditions for Black Women. Most Hispanic women and many poor White women went through the same sort of thing.

If you enjoy the internet, then be thankful for the feminists who paved the way for women to use advanced tech and be trained to program and use computers. And you might not be aware that it was the feminists (I was one -- my real name is mentioned in at least one article) who stood up and complained to administrators about online sexual harrassment and eventually forced an end to things like the "LambdaMOO rapes".
www.caida.org/outreach/iec/ courses/ife97/articles/arics.html

It takes all kinds to float da boat, and I don't mind those who want the man to lead the household. But I think it's silly to blame the feminists for a lot of society's ills and pretend that if we could go back to the 50's it would be better.

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posted on Nov, 29 2004 @ 12:15 AM
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It's because of feminism that some women HAVE to work outside the home. Women are clogging the job market, let's face it. If all women stayed home, that would leave more jobs for the men to snap up and support their families. That's provided they're actually married instead of having ex-girlfriends and assorted children scattered to the winds.

I'm glad I was able to come home and be with my son. I do recognize that some have to work outside the home. But I say stay home if you can.

My parents were in a rather unique situation. My dad was disabled, getting Social Security, and my mother had to work to supplement that. At least Dad was home with me and my sister. Before he died he got a settlement and paid off everything, which took a load off Mom's back.

I wouldn't mind at all if we went back to head-of-household voting. But so long as we have individual voting, I'll go right ahead. See back then, they went by HOUSEHOLD rather than individual.



posted on Nov, 29 2004 @ 12:34 AM
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Originally posted by Amethyst
They want to do away with marriage. To have a stable society you need a stable family unit. This means a married couple and their children.


Not all feminists want to do away with marriage - you shouldn't generalize.
A married couple with children does not equal a stable family unit... Marriage does not guarantee anything.

I'm a single mother and my daughter has a very stable home. Marrying her father would have equaled the exact opposite of that.


The divorce rate has skyrocketed--and it's mostly women who do the leaving.


Are you inferring that women should stay in marriages where they are not happy? Where they are abused, whether it be physically or emotionally?



My son may be in a minority--having both parents married, long before he was born. That's sad.


Why is that sad?
So long as a child has a stable, loving environment, which is not guaranteed by marriage, they should be fine. If anything, parents staying married when they are clearly unhappy together can have bad effects on children involved to. Sometimes it's best for the children for the parents to separate so there can be some stability and happiness with both parents still in their lives.




I'm a stay-at-home wife and mother and I would MUCH rather be here than working outside the home--which I have done!


And that is a fulfilling and noble job and life for some. But for others it isn't. Others may have aspirations for things outside of raising a family and creating a home for them. That's their choice and it should be their choice, just as it it yours to stay at home.


Boys tend to act like boys and girls like girls--without any prompting. In fact, I encourage this in my son by getting him Bob the Builder stuff and things I think boys would like.

How can you say that 'boys act like boys' without any prompting?
There is prompting from the moment they are born or even before... blue and other colours associated with boys... toys associated with boys... boy names... the male/female function dichotomy is present from a very young age.. in books and other forms of media.

I just don't think you can say that b oys act like boys without any prompting because there is prompting there for the moment they are born.



posted on Nov, 29 2004 @ 12:35 AM
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Originally posted by Amethyst
It's because of feminism that some women HAVE to work outside the home. Women are clogging the job market, let's face it. If all women stayed home, that would leave more jobs for the men to snap up and support their families. That's provided they're actually married instead of having ex-girlfriends and assorted children scattered to the winds.


Why should men be the ones supporting their families and not women, though?



But I say stay home if you can.


IMO, it's not a matter of being able to stay home, but a matter of whether you want to, and having the freedom to make that choice.





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