Conversion of Matter into Energy and Conversion of Energy Back to Matter

First,
Albert Einstein said this:

“Concerning matter, we have been all wrong. What we have called matter is energy, whose vibration has been so lowered as to be perceptible to the senses. There is no matter.”

For a long time now man has been able to convert images of matter and sound into energy and back to a representation of the original image and/or sound. But we still can not convert physical matter into energy and back to matter - this would be the most important step in scientific evolution as it would facilitate space travel and the ability to transport material substances long distances at a much faster rate than can currently be done with today's technology. I say one day this will be done - the scientific breakthroughs and technology will be developed; BUT will we be able to convert an entire living being, such as a human, into energy and re-construct that person back to the same person he was before?

Bean me up, and tell me if you think this will ever be possible Any ideas on how to

a reply to: AlienView

As for the data-part of storing all informations of the particles in the human body - this might be in our means, not beyond it.

The Bekenstein bound gives a number for the stored information for matter in a volume, you might take the human body as a volume filled with a human body, right?

So, for the human brain alone someone calculated the number of about 2.6 * 10^42 bits = 3.25*10^29 TByte..

originally posted by: AlienView
First,
Albert Einstein said this:
“Concerning matter, we have been all wrong. What we have called matter is energy, whose vibration has been so lowered as to be perceptible to the senses. There is no matter.”
For a long time now man has been able to convert images of matter and sound into energy and back to a representation of the original image and/or sound. But we still can not convert physical matter into energy and back to matter

Would you mind explaining what you mean by 'images of matter and sound'?
Einstein states that there is no matter - just energy. You have posted this and then you speak about converting 'physical matter' into energy. I am confused by what you are asking.

a reply to: AlienView

“Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves.

Bill Hicks.

originally posted by: AlienView
this would be the most important step in scientific evolution as it would facilitate space travel and the ability to transport material substances long distances at a much faster rate than can currently be done with today's technology

Using artificial Merkaba is boring. And inappropriate. Please use your mind instead,

The tricky part will be maintaining the life force during the conversion of a living being into energy and back into a material person - Or reconstructing the person so he is the same alive and conscious entity that he started as.

They have brought people who have been dead for a short period of time back to life - but reconstructing a person who has been de-materialized into pure energy back to the same living being will require a technology yet to be developed.

Ready to 'beam-up'?

a reply to: AlienView

Apparently this is exactly what the aliens in the Friendship Case were able to do. See, Stefano Breccia on this.

originally posted by: Itisnowagain

originally posted by: AlienView
First,
Albert Einstein said this:
“Concerning matter, we have been all wrong. What we have called matter is energy, whose vibration has been so lowered as to be perceptible to the senses. There is no matter.”
For a long time now man has been able to convert images of matter and sound into energy and back to a representation of the original image and/or sound. But we still can not convert physical matter into energy and back to matter

Would you mind explaining what you mean by 'images of matter and sound'?
Einstein states that there is no matter - just energy. You have posted this and then you speak about converting 'physical matter' into energy. I am confused by what you are asking.

Matter is not a substance. Neither is mass. It is merely a certain geometry that energy assumes when it cools down. In this sense it is an image. It can evaporate out of existence if heat is applied.

originally posted by: EnPassant

originally posted by: Itisnowagain

originally posted by: AlienView
First,
Albert Einstein said this:
“Concerning matter, we have been all wrong. What we have called matter is energy, whose vibration has been so lowered as to be perceptible to the senses. There is no matter.”
For a long time now man has been able to convert images of matter and sound into energy and back to a representation of the original image and/or sound. But we still can not convert physical matter into energy and back to matter

Would you mind explaining what you mean by 'images of matter and sound'?
Einstein states that there is no matter - just energy. You have posted this and then you speak about converting 'physical matter' into energy. I am confused by what you are asking.

Matter is not a substance. Neither is mass. It is merely a certain geometry that energy assumes when it cools down. In this sense it is an image. It can evaporate out of existence if heat is applied.

Einstein has stated that there is no matter. And this is used to start the whole thread off. And then everyone on here is talking about matter and mass.
There is only energy - there is no such 'thing' as 'thing'.
Energy is all there is and it is not a thing - as it is everything (all - there is no particular- the illusion of particular comes from naming, labelling).

originally posted by: EnPassant
In this sense it is an image.

The image that is appearing now is THE energy - there is nothing else - this is the present configuration of the ONE energy.
The image of god.

The image appears to 'matter' if there appears to be something separate from it.
When there appears to be a 'knower' and a 'known' all things magically appear to be.

Can the knower ever be separate from the known or do they arise as one?

a reply to: AlienView

Energy into matter and matter into energy, is not important ... but how would you transport this energy, intact ... to any destination. Assuming you had the ability to store this data, at all ... and how would you funnel that energy into the matter. It would be "cloning" ... and before you leap, you must learn to walk, and before you walk, you must learn to crawl. And before that, you're just a mindless infant that lies on it's back and babbles incomprehensible mumble about the dancing images before your eyes.

originally posted by: bjarneorn
a reply to: AlienView
Energy into matter and matter into energy, is not important ...

Does Einstein say there is 'matter'? Is 'matter' different to 'energy' (that is if you are saying there is matter)?
Matter is energy - or is it??
No - there is no matter, there is just energy which gets named matter and then is assumed to be a thing of sorts.

Is it possible to transport the dream scene (image) you had last night to another destination? Was the energy that the dream was made of made of matter? Can it be stored and moved? Or is the dream just a memory which is appearing presently?

There is only ever what is happening - this is the energy right here and right now - it looks like something (feels like something) and gets named matter - it is just an appearance - there is nothing solid - it's energy - there is no things.

I know this might be a long shot, but isn't coal and crude oil trapped energy from the sun? The sun burns off energy, it's trapped in the plants and animals, used up, and what's left in the decaying matter can be reused later.
Or rather, are you trying to explain how we can teleport matter from one side of a room to another?

I know scientists have started working seriously on quantum computers, which can literally teleport data without wires.
en.wikipedia.org...

originally posted by: AlienView
First,
Albert Einstein said this:

“Concerning matter, we have been all wrong. What we have called matter is energy, whose vibration has been so lowered as to be perceptible to the senses. There is no matter.”

Do you believe every fake Einstein quote you read? If he said it, cite the book, or paper and date, but I doubt you can as it's listed as a fake Einstein quote here:

Debunking Fake Albert Einstein Quotes

Here’s one that seems to be related to the one posted by Aaron Reed:

“What we have called matter is energy, whose vibration has been so lowered as to be perceptible to the senses. There is no matter.”

This one is repeated in many new-age, pseudo-science publications and web sites. ..

Now whether there's any merit to such a statement is another issue, and the definition of matter can vary, but don't post fake Einstein quotes, please. ATS has a policy against hoaxes.

By the way we sort of convert matter to energy and back to matter with fax machines, roughly speaking. Humans are too complex. In Star trek the fictional "Heisenberg compensator" is supposed to compensate for our inability to measure position and velocity accurately of small particles simultaneously, but as far as we know no such device is possible as the Heisenberg uncertainty is fundamental and not just a measurement problem.

So faxes, yes; people, no, unless you don't care if the people are put back together right.

a reply to: AlienView

As I understand it, NASA is looking into perturbing the quantum foam to generate thrust (my paraphrase) as part of its Alcubiere (spelling?) warp drive research.

If that technology works, it will work by *literally* creating space behind it (and, I think, consuming space before it).

If we can perturb the quantum foam to create random particles, we'll eventually be able to create specific particles.

From there, it's a matter of:
* scan the object to transport or replicate into whatever storage medium you have built that's big enough.
* recreate the exact quantum state from the moment of the scan.

Piece o' cake!

Theoretically, anyway

a reply to: AlienView

Einstein says that matter and energy can be shown to be equivalent...
i.e., E = m c ^2

E = m c ^2 is an equation. That means both sides of the equation equal each other. The equation E = m c ^2 shows the equivalence of a mass of matter to energy. We know that this equation describes how mass (matter) equates to energy, such as in an atomic bomb or in nuclear energy production, but because it is an equation, it can be turned around to describe how energy is converted into matter...

by doing a little algebra to rewrite the equation to solve for "m" (mass/matter), we get:

m = E / c ^2

The atomic bomb and E = m c ^2 shows us that a small mass of matter can be converted into HUGE amounts of energy. However, and conversely, m = E / c ^2 shows us that it would also required HUGE amounts of energy to convert that energy into an small amount of matter (if we could theoretically do such an energy-to-matter conversion).

originally posted by: AlienView
First,
Albert Einstein said this:

“Concerning matter, we have been all wrong. What we have called matter is energy, whose vibration has been so lowered as to be perceptible to the senses. There is no matter.”

Did he? I haven't found that quote, doesn't mean it's not true, but the one about the bees he never made either. Lots of fake quotes are attributed to Einstein. And the primary reason I question it is the "whose vibration has been so lowered", which doesn't make sense in terms of physics.

originally posted by: AlienView

But we still can not convert physical matter into energy and back to matter - this would be the most important step in scientific evolution as it would facilitate space travel and the ability to transport material substances long distances at a much faster rate than can currently be done with today's technology.

Sure we can. You can watch matter change to energy by taking a tour of your local nuclear power plant. That's where the power comes from.

Changing matter into energy happens as well - see also pair production.