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originally posted by: jude11
Why here?
Because it's not a conspiracy...But rather a medical issue. Or a Rant?
Vaping...
Many have issues with us and I have one thing to say...
@#$%^&* YOU!!!!!!
We are trying to battle a Drug. That's it. That's a fact. Vaping has been proven not to be a health hazard to others but yet it's under attack as "Unsavory"?
I won't go in to the vast research and studies of tobacco because if you want to attack this thread to argue otherwise...Go To Hell! I will state unequivocally that you have no knowledge of the topic and you should just "Deny Ignorance"
You have no platform on which to stand and you know it. You just need to say something, anything...either to gain a star/flag or to assert yourself as the official base of knowledge in a topic of which you have no knowledge whatsoever.
Do You want us to quit? It seems that you need us to continue in order to argue a point.
Do you not want us to quit? Well, there is another agenda...right?
You bitch because we pollute your air on a subway and yet we must join you in the fight for personal freedoms of which you choose. What about our rights?
Pick Your battles...because when it comes to it...we are all wanting a clear air space but us smokers wanting the same need your help. We got hooked on a Drug that many of you can't understand. But remember that you may be hooked on another that you believe is ok> It's the same!
We're all test subjects for one Drug or another.
Want to challenge? Please list your medicine cabinet contents...it's the same. Don't Agree With Vaping...Go to Hell!
At least we're trying to quit our Drug....What are you Doing?
Peace
originally posted by: GreysAreGays
The only harmful thing about vaping is the temperature of the vapor tearing up your throat.
originally posted by: EviLCHiMP
originally posted by: jude11
Why here?
Because it's not a conspiracy...But rather a medical issue. Or a Rant?
Vaping...
Many have issues with us and I have one thing to say...
@#$%^&* YOU!!!!!!
We are trying to battle a Drug. That's it. That's a fact. Vaping has been proven not to be a health hazard to others but yet it's under attack as "Unsavory"?
I won't go in to the vast research and studies of tobacco because if you want to attack this thread to argue otherwise...Go To Hell! I will state unequivocally that you have no knowledge of the topic and you should just "Deny Ignorance"
You have no platform on which to stand and you know it. You just need to say something, anything...either to gain a star/flag or to assert yourself as the official base of knowledge in a topic of which you have no knowledge whatsoever.
Do You want us to quit? It seems that you need us to continue in order to argue a point.
Do you not want us to quit? Well, there is another agenda...right?
You bitch because we pollute your air on a subway and yet we must join you in the fight for personal freedoms of which you choose. What about our rights?
Pick Your battles...because when it comes to it...we are all wanting a clear air space but us smokers wanting the same need your help. We got hooked on a Drug that many of you can't understand. But remember that you may be hooked on another that you believe is ok> It's the same!
We're all test subjects for one Drug or another.
Want to challenge? Please list your medicine cabinet contents...it's the same. Don't Agree With Vaping...Go to Hell!
At least we're trying to quit our Drug....What are you Doing?
Peace
Why must someone be condemned to hell because they do not agree with you? It would be one thing if they were breaking into your house and smashing your vape but if they are only voicing an opposite opinion that does not make you good and them evil. This is very unhealthy thinking my friend, you're causing yourself unnecessary suffering and it shows through how you present yourself.
Peace be with you.
originally posted by: jude11
originally posted by: EviLCHiMP
originally posted by: jude11
Why here?
Because it's not a conspiracy...But rather a medical issue. Or a Rant?
Vaping...
Many have issues with us and I have one thing to say...
@#$%^&* YOU!!!!!!
We are trying to battle a Drug. That's it. That's a fact. Vaping has been proven not to be a health hazard to others but yet it's under attack as "Unsavory"?
I won't go in to the vast research and studies of tobacco because if you want to attack this thread to argue otherwise...Go To Hell! I will state unequivocally that you have no knowledge of the topic and you should just "Deny Ignorance"
You have no platform on which to stand and you know it. You just need to say something, anything...either to gain a star/flag or to assert yourself as the official base of knowledge in a topic of which you have no knowledge whatsoever.
Do You want us to quit? It seems that you need us to continue in order to argue a point.
Do you not want us to quit? Well, there is another agenda...right?
You bitch because we pollute your air on a subway and yet we must join you in the fight for personal freedoms of which you choose. What about our rights?
Pick Your battles...because when it comes to it...we are all wanting a clear air space but us smokers wanting the same need your help. We got hooked on a Drug that many of you can't understand. But remember that you may be hooked on another that you believe is ok> It's the same!
We're all test subjects for one Drug or another.
Want to challenge? Please list your medicine cabinet contents...it's the same. Don't Agree With Vaping...Go to Hell!
At least we're trying to quit our Drug....What are you Doing?
Peace
Why must someone be condemned to hell because they do not agree with you? It would be one thing if they were breaking into your house and smashing your vape but if they are only voicing an opposite opinion that does not make you good and them evil. This is very unhealthy thinking my friend, you're causing yourself unnecessary suffering and it shows through how you present yourself.
Peace be with you.
I wake up every morning trying to quit. Not only for myself but others I care about.
I then Have strangers tell me that my vaping (attempt to quit smoking) is nasty. With no info whatsoever.
Go To Hell? Absolutely!
My life, My choice...
I have a Drug that I am trying to quit that is legal by Govt.
SO...BTW...The Govt. can also go to hell!
Peace
originally posted by: jude11
I am NOT lopoking for an arguumant...DAMN!
I am sincerely trying to quit!
So if you want to troll the thread...#$%^&* You!
This is for me and any others who want to quit.
Peace
originally posted by: EviLCHiMP
originally posted by: jude11
originally posted by: EviLCHiMP
originally posted by: jude11
Why here?
Because it's not a conspiracy...But rather a medical issue. Or a Rant?
Vaping...
Many have issues with us and I have one thing to say...
@#$%^&* YOU!!!!!!
We are trying to battle a Drug. That's it. That's a fact. Vaping has been proven not to be a health hazard to others but yet it's under attack as "Unsavory"?
I won't go in to the vast research and studies of tobacco because if you want to attack this thread to argue otherwise...Go To Hell! I will state unequivocally that you have no knowledge of the topic and you should just "Deny Ignorance"
You have no platform on which to stand and you know it. You just need to say something, anything...either to gain a star/flag or to assert yourself as the official base of knowledge in a topic of which you have no knowledge whatsoever.
Do You want us to quit? It seems that you need us to continue in order to argue a point.
Do you not want us to quit? Well, there is another agenda...right?
You bitch because we pollute your air on a subway and yet we must join you in the fight for personal freedoms of which you choose. What about our rights?
Pick Your battles...because when it comes to it...we are all wanting a clear air space but us smokers wanting the same need your help. We got hooked on a Drug that many of you can't understand. But remember that you may be hooked on another that you believe is ok> It's the same!
We're all test subjects for one Drug or another.
Want to challenge? Please list your medicine cabinet contents...it's the same. Don't Agree With Vaping...Go to Hell!
At least we're trying to quit our Drug....What are you Doing?
Peace
Why must someone be condemned to hell because they do not agree with you? It would be one thing if they were breaking into your house and smashing your vape but if they are only voicing an opposite opinion that does not make you good and them evil. This is very unhealthy thinking my friend, you're causing yourself unnecessary suffering and it shows through how you present yourself.
Peace be with you.
I wake up every morning trying to quit. Not only for myself but others I care about.
I then Have strangers tell me that my vaping (attempt to quit smoking) is nasty. With no info whatsoever.
Go To Hell? Absolutely!
My life, My choice...
I have a Drug that I am trying to quit that is legal by Govt.
SO...BTW...The Govt. can also go to hell!
Peace
It sounds like you want to point the finger at everyone but yourself. It's your life, your choice, so why take it out on everyone else? Do you think a heroin addict would share your sympathy?
Maybe this lack of acknowledgment of your own weakness, and I say weakness because nobody is holding a gun to your head making you smoke, is whats keeping you from quitting all together?
I smoked for 13 years, quit 30,000 times, but I didn't truly quit until I accepted that it was my choice as to what I was putting my body through.
I pray you gain strength to overcome this addiction. Health of body is health of mind.
originally posted by: jude11
originally posted by: EviLCHiMP
originally posted by: jude11
originally posted by: EviLCHiMP
originally posted by: jude11
Why here?
Because it's not a conspiracy...But rather a medical issue. Or a Rant?
Vaping...
Many have issues with us and I have one thing to say...
@#$%^&* YOU!!!!!!
We are trying to battle a Drug. That's it. That's a fact. Vaping has been proven not to be a health hazard to others but yet it's under attack as "Unsavory"?
I won't go in to the vast research and studies of tobacco because if you want to attack this thread to argue otherwise...Go To Hell! I will state unequivocally that you have no knowledge of the topic and you should just "Deny Ignorance"
You have no platform on which to stand and you know it. You just need to say something, anything...either to gain a star/flag or to assert yourself as the official base of knowledge in a topic of which you have no knowledge whatsoever.
Do You want us to quit? It seems that you need us to continue in order to argue a point.
Do you not want us to quit? Well, there is another agenda...right?
You bitch because we pollute your air on a subway and yet we must join you in the fight for personal freedoms of which you choose. What about our rights?
Pick Your battles...because when it comes to it...we are all wanting a clear air space but us smokers wanting the same need your help. We got hooked on a Drug that many of you can't understand. But remember that you may be hooked on another that you believe is ok> It's the same!
We're all test subjects for one Drug or another.
Want to challenge? Please list your medicine cabinet contents...it's the same. Don't Agree With Vaping...Go to Hell!
At least we're trying to quit our Drug....What are you Doing?
Peace
Why must someone be condemned to hell because they do not agree with you? It would be one thing if they were breaking into your house and smashing your vape but if they are only voicing an opposite opinion that does not make you good and them evil. This is very unhealthy thinking my friend, you're causing yourself unnecessary suffering and it shows through how you present yourself.
Peace be with you.
I wake up every morning trying to quit. Not only for myself but others I care about.
I then Have strangers tell me that my vaping (attempt to quit smoking) is nasty. With no info whatsoever.
Go To Hell? Absolutely!
My life, My choice...
I have a Drug that I am trying to quit that is legal by Govt.
SO...BTW...The Govt. can also go to hell!
Peace
It sounds like you want to point the finger at everyone but yourself. It's your life, your choice, so why take it out on everyone else? Do you think a heroin addict would share your sympathy?
Maybe this lack of acknowledgment of your own weakness, and I say weakness because nobody is holding a gun to your head making you smoke, is whats keeping you from quitting all together?
I smoked for 13 years, quit 30,000 times, but I didn't truly quit until I accepted that it was my choice as to what I was putting my body through.
I pray you gain strength to overcome this addiction. Health of body is health of mind.
Appreciate your input.
I need to put my issues to words because as you may know we all need something other than ourselves to gain strength.
This site is my strength as I have many people that listen/support rather than ridicule.
Peace
originally posted by: EviLCHiMP
originally posted by: jude11
I am NOT lopoking for an arguumant...DAMN!
I am sincerely trying to quit!
So if you want to troll the thread...#$%^&* You!
This is for me and any others who want to quit.
Peace
How exactly am I trolling by speaking the truth? Did you make this thread to get help or did you make this thread to get pity and spread a hateful message? Look at how you are reacting to people who have walked in your shoes.
originally posted by: EviLCHiMP
originally posted by: jude11
originally posted by: EviLCHiMP
originally posted by: jude11
originally posted by: EviLCHiMP
originally posted by: jude11
Why here?
Because it's not a conspiracy...But rather a medical issue. Or a Rant?
Vaping...
Many have issues with us and I have one thing to say...
@#$%^&* YOU!!!!!!
We are trying to battle a Drug. That's it. That's a fact. Vaping has been proven not to be a health hazard to others but yet it's under attack as "Unsavory"?
I won't go in to the vast research and studies of tobacco because if you want to attack this thread to argue otherwise...Go To Hell! I will state unequivocally that you have no knowledge of the topic and you should just "Deny Ignorance"
You have no platform on which to stand and you know it. You just need to say something, anything...either to gain a star/flag or to assert yourself as the official base of knowledge in a topic of which you have no knowledge whatsoever.
Do You want us to quit? It seems that you need us to continue in order to argue a point.
Do you not want us to quit? Well, there is another agenda...right?
You bitch because we pollute your air on a subway and yet we must join you in the fight for personal freedoms of which you choose. What about our rights?
Pick Your battles...because when it comes to it...we are all wanting a clear air space but us smokers wanting the same need your help. We got hooked on a Drug that many of you can't understand. But remember that you may be hooked on another that you believe is ok> It's the same!
We're all test subjects for one Drug or another.
Want to challenge? Please list your medicine cabinet contents...it's the same. Don't Agree With Vaping...Go to Hell!
At least we're trying to quit our Drug....What are you Doing?
Peace
Why must someone be condemned to hell because they do not agree with you? It would be one thing if they were breaking into your house and smashing your vape but if they are only voicing an opposite opinion that does not make you good and them evil. This is very unhealthy thinking my friend, you're causing yourself unnecessary suffering and it shows through how you present yourself.
Peace be with you.
I wake up every morning trying to quit. Not only for myself but others I care about.
I then Have strangers tell me that my vaping (attempt to quit smoking) is nasty. With no info whatsoever.
Go To Hell? Absolutely!
My life, My choice...
I have a Drug that I am trying to quit that is legal by Govt.
SO...BTW...The Govt. can also go to hell!
Peace
It sounds like you want to point the finger at everyone but yourself. It's your life, your choice, so why take it out on everyone else? Do you think a heroin addict would share your sympathy?
Maybe this lack of acknowledgment of your own weakness, and I say weakness because nobody is holding a gun to your head making you smoke, is whats keeping you from quitting all together?
I smoked for 13 years, quit 30,000 times, but I didn't truly quit until I accepted that it was my choice as to what I was putting my body through.
I pray you gain strength to overcome this addiction. Health of body is health of mind.
Appreciate your input.
I need to put my issues to words because as you may know we all need something other than ourselves to gain strength.
This site is my strength as I have many people that listen/support rather than ridicule.
Peace
I do truly apologize if anything I said offended you, it wasn't in my interest to do so. I do share your suffering, smoking is by far one of the hardest habits to quit because not only does it make you physically addicted, but emotionally and mentally too. I wish you the best in your journey to being smoke free and I pray you don't suffer through it as much as I did. Best wishes friend
originally posted by: jude11
originally posted by: EviLCHiMP
originally posted by: jude11
originally posted by: EviLCHiMP
originally posted by: jude11
originally posted by: EviLCHiMP
originally posted by: jude11
Why here?
Because it's not a conspiracy...But rather a medical issue. Or a Rant?
Vaping...
Many have issues with us and I have one thing to say...
@#$%^&* YOU!!!!!!
We are trying to battle a Drug. That's it. That's a fact. Vaping has been proven not to be a health hazard to others but yet it's under attack as "Unsavory"?
I won't go in to the vast research and studies of tobacco because if you want to attack this thread to argue otherwise...Go To Hell! I will state unequivocally that you have no knowledge of the topic and you should just "Deny Ignorance"
You have no platform on which to stand and you know it. You just need to say something, anything...either to gain a star/flag or to assert yourself as the official base of knowledge in a topic of which you have no knowledge whatsoever.
Do You want us to quit? It seems that you need us to continue in order to argue a point.
Do you not want us to quit? Well, there is another agenda...right?
You bitch because we pollute your air on a subway and yet we must join you in the fight for personal freedoms of which you choose. What about our rights?
Pick Your battles...because when it comes to it...we are all wanting a clear air space but us smokers wanting the same need your help. We got hooked on a Drug that many of you can't understand. But remember that you may be hooked on another that you believe is ok> It's the same!
We're all test subjects for one Drug or another.
Want to challenge? Please list your medicine cabinet contents...it's the same. Don't Agree With Vaping...Go to Hell!
At least we're trying to quit our Drug....What are you Doing?
Peace
Why must someone be condemned to hell because they do not agree with you? It would be one thing if they were breaking into your house and smashing your vape but if they are only voicing an opposite opinion that does not make you good and them evil. This is very unhealthy thinking my friend, you're causing yourself unnecessary suffering and it shows through how you present yourself.
Peace be with you.
I wake up every morning trying to quit. Not only for myself but others I care about.
I then Have strangers tell me that my vaping (attempt to quit smoking) is nasty. With no info whatsoever.
Go To Hell? Absolutely!
My life, My choice...
I have a Drug that I am trying to quit that is legal by Govt.
SO...BTW...The Govt. can also go to hell!
Peace
It sounds like you want to point the finger at everyone but yourself. It's your life, your choice, so why take it out on everyone else? Do you think a heroin addict would share your sympathy?
Maybe this lack of acknowledgment of your own weakness, and I say weakness because nobody is holding a gun to your head making you smoke, is whats keeping you from quitting all together?
I smoked for 13 years, quit 30,000 times, but I didn't truly quit until I accepted that it was my choice as to what I was putting my body through.
I pray you gain strength to overcome this addiction. Health of body is health of mind.
Appreciate your input.
I need to put my issues to words because as you may know we all need something other than ourselves to gain strength.
This site is my strength as I have many people that listen/support rather than ridicule.
Peace
I do truly apologize if anything I said offended you, it wasn't in my interest to do so. I do share your suffering, smoking is by far one of the hardest habits to quit because not only does it make you physically addicted, but emotionally and mentally too. I wish you the best in your journey to being smoke free and I pray you don't suffer through it as much as I did. Best wishes friend
No Harm Done...
Thank You....Thank You.....Thank You!!!!
It's not easy but I Keep on Keeping on...
Peace
originally posted by: Kangaruex4Ewe
I am completely with you Jude. I am a fellow vaper and I am tired of all the negative hubbub over it. I even see a few current smokers coming in on threads commenting on how vaping is just as bad as inhaling over 4,000 different, toxic chemicals. To say that is asinine at its best and is against the TOS here to say what it is at its worst. I think that attitude comes from either a small bit of jealousy that they have not been able to quit or they do it in a way as to try and talk themselves into thinking that they don't have to try it (and possibly fail) because it's "just as bad".
I really love it when folks argue that it's just swapping out addictions like vaping and cigarettes are the exact same thing. Like it's the addiction itself that kills you and not the rat poison that is commonly found in cigarettes. That argument is asinine IMO as well.
God forbid anyone actually try to take steps to improve themselves, their health, and the health of those around them. NOOO! We can't have folks going around thinking that it's possible to reduce your risk of cancer without the aid of Big Pharma... What a travesty that would be.
I am not sure why some folks have an issue with it other than what I have mentioned to be honest. But I am adopting the attitude you have rather quickly. They can really just take a long walk off a short pier for lack of a better term. I have not had a cigarette in almost a year. I feel better. I breath better. I have more money. My daughter doesn't go to school smelling like cigarettes anymore. I could just keep going with the benefits I have experienced since I entered the world of vaping.
I don't really give a damn about the negative opinions, the sarcastic remarks, the "better than you because I quit cold turkey and never looked back" comments. They can all kiss my smoke free arse.
And that's all I have to say about that.