originally posted by: Night Star
originally posted by: F4guy
a reply to: Night Star
274 children per day are molested by legal citizens. www.childhelp.org... Maybe we should deport all citizens to protect the
All you are saying in that foolish statement is that it's ok to allow illegal pedophiles/rapists to be here. We have laws that are not being enforced
and hundreds of children wouldn't have been attacked had those laws been enforced. I suppose if it were your child then it would be
Of course not, but your original statement is an excellent example of how to lie with statistics. Your title fails to mention North Carolina, and
taken by itself is a GROSS simplification that does not tell the whole story. But even if you add North Carolina to the picture, which you do in your
first post, that still provides no context for what you are saying. You do, of course, want to illustrate this as how bad it is and how, presumably,
the issue is really about illegal immigrants who, if we prevented them from illegally immigrating, would prevent this child abuse. But even here you
get into trouble. All you are really saying is that the child abuse committed by illegal immigrants would, if they were not allowed to immigrate, at
least not result in children abused HERE. but be abused in some southern, Spanish-speaking country no one cares about.
THEN, not content, you suggest this poster would feel differently if it were his own child. That's an illogical ad hominem and unjustified attack on
the person. It's uncalled for. Shame on you. Edit: I see you edited your statement to remove this attack, but you and I both know it was originally
In other words, your contention fails on many levels. It's an example of a bogus statistic. If you really want to bring attention to the issue, you
would have to point out how many children are abused in this country as a total and show what percentage are committed by illegal immigrants AND how
this is lower or higher than that of the general population. To be completely thorough and rigorous, you would also have to show how being illegally
immigrated somehow CAUSES this abuse and that it would not otherwise have happened.
Because RIGHT NOW, the way you have presented the information, a possible logical conclusion is that illegal immigrants are responsible for LESS child
abuse as a percentage than the general population. You can't really tell from the statistics you presented because the numbers are lacking.
To call a spade a spade here, your thread is really an anti-illegal immigration thread that seeks to vilify that population. The same exact tactic was
used in the build up to the first Gulf War when we were told by the MSM that the Iraqis invaded Kuwait and took babies out of incubators to ship them
North. We were all repulsed by this outrageous behavior by the Iraqis toward children. It turned out that the incubators were hidden in a locked room
and not found until after the liberation of Kuwait. Naturally all of us here blamed Bush for lying to the American people to get his way so we would
support the Iraqi invasion.
Although I'm sure you are shocked at being painted with the same brush here and will protest vehemently, the fact is you have done the same thing. You
are anti illegal immigrant, and you are using questionable, unsubstantiated, and incomplete statistics to justify it, then turn around and attack your
detractors with personal and unjustified attacks.
It's shocking, really. So much for denying ignorance.
edit on 5/4/2014 by schuyler because: (no reason given)