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Dozens Of CIA, FBI Agents Advising Ukraine Government

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posted on May, 5 2014 @ 05:52 AM
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originally posted by: ColCurious
a reply to: DJW001


originally posted by: DJW001
So why did Russia seize Crimea before the CIA and FBI arrived?

I missed where this was even part of Russia's argumentation for admitting Crimea into the Russian Federation as a new constituent region (which is actually what happened in legal terms, and YES it violated the territorial integrity of the former souvereign republic of Ukraine AND international law, before anyone jumps to calling me pro-Russian again).


It was not at the time, but has become a talking point in retrospect.




posted on May, 5 2014 @ 06:10 AM
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a reply to: Agent_USA_Supporter


originally posted by: Agent_USA_Supporter
[...] but what Kosovo did it didn't violated the territorial integrity of the Serbian Nation now did it?

I never said that.

In fact, I pointed out in other threads that NATO's Kosovo war also violated the territorial integrity of the federal republic of Yugoslavia at the time, and also violated international law, and thus set a dangerous precedent that Putin could now so conveniently refer to.



posted on May, 5 2014 @ 06:10 AM
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originally posted by: DJW001
It was not at the time, but has become a talking point in retrospect.

By whom? The internets?

There are probably more "talking points" than monkey wrenches on Ukrainian soil right now... neither is helpful to the situation.
edit on 5-5-2014 by ColCurious because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 5 2014 @ 12:26 PM
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Ukraine is riddles with Russian spies and agents has been for over a decade, way before maidan, anyone who wants to point fingers at the western specialists and advisors sent in on request of Ukraine's government is just desperately biased


Seriously... Stop the silly games guys it's getting pathetic now

If the west had ignored Ukraine's pleads for assistance and help, much of or all of the Ukraine would be under Russian military control



posted on May, 5 2014 @ 12:48 PM
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Anywhere there are problems in the world - this scum exists. This is proof as to what's going on in Ukraine and I wouldn't blame Putin for steam-rolling that place. Too bad Putin didn't intercept their gold before it made it's way back to the NY federal reserve.



posted on May, 5 2014 @ 06:46 PM
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originally posted by: Fylgje
Anywhere there are problems in the world - this scum exists. This is proof as to what's going on in Ukraine and I wouldn't blame Putin for steam-rolling that place. Too bad Putin didn't intercept their gold before it made it's way back to the NY federal reserve.




I can see how you're confused

Do you watch Alex jones a lot?



posted on May, 5 2014 @ 06:50 PM
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a reply to: TritonTaranis




Do you watch Alex jones a lot?


Then why are you here? if you hate Alex jones so much a man whom speaks the truth why are you here on a site that informs the public about the truth compared to the MSM?

I always seen ATS as an alternative source of news.



posted on May, 5 2014 @ 06:52 PM
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a reply to: ColCurious

So voting is actually is a dangerous precedent that Putin could now so conveniently refer to? compared to what the armed thugs in Kiev did?



posted on May, 5 2014 @ 06:52 PM
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originally posted by: Fylgje
Anywhere there are problems in the world - this scum exists. This is proof as to what's going on in Ukraine and I wouldn't blame Putin for steam-rolling that place. Too bad Putin didn't intercept their gold before it made it's way back to the NY federal reserve.


Please be a bit more specific about who this "scum" is. Enquiring minds want to know.



posted on May, 5 2014 @ 09:20 PM
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a reply to: DJW001
All the information in the world is at your fingertips. Google google google!
Do I have to write 2nd line here?



posted on May, 5 2014 @ 10:54 PM
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originally posted by: Agent_USA_Supporter
a reply to: ColCurious
So voting is actually is a dangerous precedent that Putin could now so conveniently refer to? compared to what the armed thugs in Kiev did?

No.
As I said, meddling in - and violating the territorial integrity of a souvereign state (by breaking it up) from the outside (and thereby violating international law) set a dangerous precedent.
Can't say it any clearer than that.



posted on May, 6 2014 @ 03:27 AM
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originally posted by: Fylgje
a reply to: DJW001
All the information in the world is at your fingertips. Google google google!
Do I have to write 2nd line here?



Coward. You are afraid to express your deeply held beliefs, so allow me to do it for you. Jews.

Edit to add: The real Nazis are on Putin's side.
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posted on May, 6 2014 @ 03:59 AM
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a reply to: Agent_USA_Supporter




Then why are you here? if you hate Alex jones so much a man whom speaks the truth why are you here on a site that informs the public about the truth compared to the MSM?


Alex Jones and the truth...Seriously?

What truth has ever came from Alex Jones that he didn't embellish?



posted on May, 6 2014 @ 04:05 AM
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So we send unarmed advisors to help a hopelessly defenseless country who's been invaded by a former super power and that's defined as"meddling".AND supposedly justifies invasion with special forces and fomenting civil war.Yet that's NOT Russian meddling??
Free speech is used here as a cover for unverifiable hate propaganda.And I'm sure if polled many of the non faschist ats members would want the return of the poster block button.



posted on May, 6 2014 @ 05:28 AM
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originally posted by: the2ofusr1
I was reading a piece a while back that looked at NGO's and showed that they were safe houses for CIA agents .I guess 5 billion dollars has to go somewhere in Ukraine to help set up the puppet Government you want to be able to controll .

Whats not being asked here is what americans think about $5bn of their taxes being spend in such a way but lets face it the sheep are not allowed to question the farmer.

if and thats a big if then Russia will make sure it captures these american agents and shows them for the world to see if they ever step in to restore peace and order.

give me one good reason why Mr Putin has not rolled in to town by now or is he in on a scam with Obama to push oil prices up and to help Obama increase military spending back home



posted on May, 6 2014 @ 05:32 AM
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I could see the CIA involved in this up to their collective armpits, but the FBI doesn't have a mandate here.

If the source is saying the FBi does, then it's likely a lie.

OTOH, the 10th SF are in the Ukraine even as we speak. But it's the direction of OMA that sends them there, so it's still CIA.



posted on May, 6 2014 @ 05:34 AM
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originally posted by: TDawg61
So we send unarmed advisors to help a hopelessly defenseless country who's been invaded by a former super power and that's defined as"meddling".AND supposedly justifies invasion with special forces and fomenting civil war.Yet that's NOT Russian meddling??


No my friend thats what is known as an out and out lie.

Russia has not invaded anyone, it's in your mind or would you like to show me pictures of a military conflict because the only tanks on the steets in the Ukraine are from the Ukraine and are being used to kill protestors.

Sorry to let the facts get in your way



posted on May, 6 2014 @ 05:35 AM
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Of course the US alphabet agencies are advising them, look at what happened in Odessa, carbon copy of Waco, set the building on fire and shoot the people trying to escape and then blame it on the people in the building.
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posted on May, 6 2014 @ 05:49 AM
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a reply to: VirusGuard


Russia has not invaded anyone, it's in your mind or would you like to show me pictures of a military conflict because the only tanks on the steets in the Ukraine are from the Ukraine and are being used to kill protestors.








You did ask.



posted on May, 6 2014 @ 05:52 AM
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a reply to: VirusGuard CIA Arms Cache Connected To Ukraine Neo-Nazis?

Weather it is to raise oil prices or not I cant say but they have raised them plenty of times in the past for different reasons . The vid kind of would explain why the Govt. bought all that ammunition that people were thinking was going to be used on Americans .Putin will go in when and if he decides to .As it stands he has not . 22:24 GMT:
Russian troops will not enter Ukraine, but will pursue its national interests via other means, NATO's top military commander and head of the US European Command, General Philip Breedlove, said.

"Today I would tell you I don't think that's the most likely course of action...I think now that [President] Putin may be able to accomplish his objectives in eastern Ukraine and never go across the border with his forces," Breedlove told a defense conference in Ottawa.

He also blamed Moscow for having a hand in the unrest in Ukraine. rt.com...



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