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Dozens Of CIA, FBI Agents Advising Ukraine Government

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posted on May, 4 2014 @ 03:21 PM
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I thought this diserved a thread on its own, just to get the message across the board.

What has been suspected for a long time, and accepted by some members now has some factual evidence.




The latest reminder of just this comes from AFP which reports, citing Germany's Bild, that "dozens of specialists from the US Central Intelligence Agency and Federal Bureau of Investigation are advising the Ukrainian government."






Citing unnamed German security sources, Bild am Sonntag said the CIA and FBI agents were helping Kiev end the rebellion in the east of Ukraine and set up a functioning security structure.

It said the agents were not directly involved in fighting with pro-Russian militants. "Their activity is limited to the capital Kiev," the paper said.

The FBI agents are also helping the Kiev government fight organised crime, it added.

A group specialised in financial matters is to help trace the wealth of former Ukrainian president Viktor Yanukovych, according to the report.


The US has a sick habit of assisting ( read meddling ) in other people's affair only to take the situation to a worse outcome. Now we know why that CIA director Brennan had "secretly" visited Kiev in early April.

I'm sure if you would pin this on the Ukraine timeline you would see that the violence did increase exponentially since then.


I am sure Putin is doing the same thing right now, but this isn't what the thread is about, create your own, or maybe do another poll? but not in this thread;

www.zerohedge.com...



I'm sure this also has nothing to do with increasing escalation between the East and West-Ukraine.... Right...
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posted on May, 4 2014 @ 03:27 PM
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Oh, what a tangled web we weave...when first we practice to deceive.
― Walter Scott, Marmion

It seems Criminals in Authority and Fudged Beyond Intervention are quite busy these days. Indeed.... As we've actually tried to babble something about Ukraine exercising it's rights of self determination? We've apparently been very busy helping to educate them on what that determination consists of and how they are to go about it.

Kinda defeats the whole 'self' suggestion there, huh?

It sure erases nothing Russia has been up to. Not even a little...but it makes it impossible to stand back and say either side has one inch of moral high ground over the other. Russia and America both ordered their hats in Black for this one. Dark black.



posted on May, 4 2014 @ 03:31 PM
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It sure erases nothing Russia has been up to. Not even a little...but it makes it impossible to stand back and say either side has one inch of moral high ground over the other. - See more at: www.abovetopsecret.com...


Indeed it doesn't change anything about what Russia has been up to, then again it changes the WHY Russia is doing what it is... And this does give more credit to Russia is indeed defending its own border from an all out NATO invasion.

Remember the phone call's. This has been one big operation from the US with the EU.
Reminder : I'm not suggesting Russia is sin free from it's actions, what violates the Geneva convention should be trialed as a crime against humanity. Be it Russians or EU/ NATO/ US.



posted on May, 4 2014 @ 03:35 PM
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Another thing that has been brough to my attention,
I am Ukrainian




Having been viewed more than 8 million times, this video can be called effective at getting its message across.

However, if we look at who put that video up, we see the name Whisper Roar at the bottom. When we track that down, we find that it's an organization putting out very professional video and movie assets that happen to tell just one side of the Ukraine story.

This video, then, was not produced by a young Ukrainian woman by herself – she had very professional and deep pocketed help from western interests and governments.

Whisper to Roar is staffed at least in part by US NGO personnel, and is very closely aligned with Yulia Tymoshenko of the Fatherland Party, the very same one that the US now backs in Ukraine. Here's a group photo of the key Whisper to Roar staff taken form their website:

www.zerohedge.com...

Just throwing it out here



posted on May, 4 2014 @ 03:44 PM
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I was reading a piece a while back that looked at NGO's and showed that they were safe houses for CIA agents .I guess 5 billion dollars has to go somewhere in Ukraine to help set up the puppet Government you want to be able to controll .



posted on May, 4 2014 @ 03:52 PM
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a reply to: MessageforAll


And this does give more credit to Russia is indeed defending its own border from an all out NATO invasion.


I agree with that. Going by history alone..and history from living memory to long before Columbus even considered being a sailor, Russia has had ONE primary strategy in defense of the homeland. Space. Physical space. Ukraine as a neutral nation is a buffer, as it has been as long as it's carried that name for the land there.

In some crazy and arrogance fueled move into pure stupidity, we're crowding Russia in a way it's never tolerated and something almost visceral to the Russian mind for having foreign and hostile borders sitting nearly atop their Capital. It's a situation they will never..ever..tolerate for any extended period.

If we wanted to force Russia to war, this is precisely how to leave them no 'out' for national interests they hold as high in priority as any we have here. Ignorance...or deliberate set up to war? I never have thought the USG was stupid.



posted on May, 4 2014 @ 04:09 PM
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a reply to: Wrabbit2000 All of the western Governments will be as stupid as their handlers need them to be .With maybe the exception of Germany maybe ...Steve Harper is a good little puppet that has been parroting the same propaganda ....



posted on May, 4 2014 @ 04:10 PM
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a reply to: MessageforAll

Thank you for posting this confirmation!



The original story broke back on 4/15/14:

US sends specialists to Ukraine to coordinate activity of its state structure - source

I posted it in a different ATS thread when the news first broke out about it.


. . . Makes you wonder who's really pulling the strings within Ukrainian govt.



posted on May, 4 2014 @ 04:27 PM
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Listen to what Zbigniew Brzezinski is saying .. www.informationclearinghouse.info... He like John Kerry must think that people really cant remember things .I think that 9/11 really woke a lot of people up and now we pay closer attention to the facts as they happen .This same Brzezinski reveals to us that it was the US that caused Russia to invade Afghanistan to give them their Vietnam war . Now it's all about the pipe lines and the USD ..



posted on May, 4 2014 @ 04:55 PM
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a reply to: MessageforAll


The US has a sick habit of assisting ( read meddling ) in other people's affair only to take the situation to a worse outcome. Now we know why that CIA director Brennan had "secretly" visited Kiev in early April.

Not a secret anymore. This is a "war" of a different color. The western mainstream can't blame the usual suspects (islamic extremists) this time.

The "secret" meeting was face to face because since Snowdens NSA spy revelations, its understood the Americans aren't the only ones that can eavesdrop. Love to hear those conversations on YouTube like the state department ones discussing who should rule in Kiev.



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posted on May, 4 2014 @ 04:58 PM
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Its all about world domination through chaos.....they keep the chaos coming while they rob the tills of every country going....
What are they gonna ever do with all the money....



posted on May, 4 2014 @ 05:01 PM
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a reply to: stirling


Its all about world domination through chaos.....they keep the chaos coming while they rob the tills of every country going.... What are they gonna ever do with all the money….


Pile it up. Ahhh, they muse to themselves, nothing like mounds of smoldering corpses and piles of yellow gold.



posted on May, 4 2014 @ 06:55 PM
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Isn't this old news now?

Thought it was on the MSM everywhere that Ukraine requested foreign assistance from specifically the US & EU

Then MSM reported the US sends CIA advisors to Ukraine to help too



posted on May, 5 2014 @ 04:07 AM
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originally posted by: the2ofusr1
With maybe the exception of Germany maybe...

Make no mistake... Chancellor Merkel's adminisitration is not at all innocent in context of the Ukrainian crisis.
While they declared themselves against further escalation, they are really only trying to uphold our own national interests AND still stand with NATO and the US.
Most of our MSM are also just repeating the US's version of the truth, with a few important exceptions.

There is something else to this story though:
The majority of our parliamentary opposition, aswell as representatives of industry and commerce, parts of our military top brass, presumably even parts of Chancellor Merkels adminisitration itself, and now parts of our MSM, disagree with our current western policies regarding Ukraine.
Not everyone is playing ball anymore...

Probably also worth mentioning:
Chancellor Merkels administration was just caught lying about the OSCE monitors, that now turned out to be German military intelligence... this might be big (here).



posted on May, 5 2014 @ 04:12 AM
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a reply to: ColCurious

Please do keep us informed, be it here or in the big Asen_2YK thread
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posted on May, 5 2014 @ 05:04 AM
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See how the Germans are playing both sides of this? As a faction, they stand to gain the most from this mess, but they definitely want the US to be the ones to do all the dirty work AND catch all the flack for it.



posted on May, 5 2014 @ 05:09 AM
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originally posted by: SurrenderingAmerica
a reply to: MessageforAll

Thank you for posting this confirmation!



The original story broke back on 4/15/14:

US sends specialists to Ukraine to coordinate activity of its state structure - source

I posted it in a different ATS thread when the news first broke out about it.


. . . Makes you wonder who's really pulling the strings within Ukrainian govt.


So why did Russia seize Crimea before the CIA and FBI arrived?



posted on May, 5 2014 @ 05:38 AM
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originally posted by: 11andrew34
See how the Germans are playing both sides of this? As a faction, they stand to gain the most from this mess, but they definitely want the US to be the ones to do all the dirty work AND catch all the flack for it.

What a well worded, objective, and thoroughly researched statement!


You're on to us... it's really Ze Germans who planned, instigated and executed this whole crisis!!
In fact, ALL the US alphabet agencies, aswell as the Russian FSB, and even NATO's command structure are covertly answering to German politicians!!!

Also, Nuland and McCain are really BND agents, and their genuine names are Frau Müller and Herr Schmidt.
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posted on May, 5 2014 @ 05:46 AM
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originally posted by: DJW001
So why did Russia seize Crimea before the CIA and FBI arrived?

I missed where this was even part of Russia's argumentation for admitting Crimea into the Russian Federation as a new constituent region (which is actually what happened in legal terms, and YES it violated the territorial integrity of the former souvereign republic of Ukraine AND international law, before anyone jumps to calling me pro-Russian again).



posted on May, 5 2014 @ 05:48 AM
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originally posted by: ColCurious
a reply to: DJW001


originally posted by: DJW001
So why did Russia seize Crimea before the CIA and FBI arrived?

I missed where this was even part of Russia's argumentation for admitting Crimea into the Russian Federation as a new constituent region (which is actually what happened in legal terms, and YES it violated the territorial integrity of the former souvereign republic of Ukraine AND international law, before anyone jumps to calling me pro-Russian again).


Ironic for someone in Germany what Crimea did it violated the territorial integrity of the former souvereign republic of Ukraine AND international law, but what Kosovo did it didn't violated the territorial integrity of the Serbian Nation now did it?



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