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Odessa slaughter: How vicious mob burnt anti-govt activists alive

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posted on May, 15 2014 @ 05:35 PM
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originally posted by: tsurfer2000h
a reply to: sosobad




Tapes are on youtube, leaked tapes, why don't you goosestep over there and have a look. Or are the men saying the words lying too?


Well then since it's on youtube it has to be true...




Nothing is good enough for you is it? Are you saying that they didn't say what they said?
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posted on May, 15 2014 @ 05:42 PM
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No you are willfully embracing it, ignoring actual evidence for wild theories without any evidence, don't sully the motto denying ignorance with what you are doing.


Well I must be as I am still replying to you...


Here you may want to look at this...

www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on May, 15 2014 @ 05:44 PM
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Nothing is good enough for you is it? Are you saying that they didn't say what they said?


I see sarcasm has left you behind, as I am saying that it can be on youtube that doesn't prove it is true.



posted on May, 15 2014 @ 05:45 PM
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a reply to: tsurfer2000h

A post with 4 stars? Looks like that persons interpretation really resounds with the community




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posted on May, 15 2014 @ 05:48 PM
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originally posted by: tsurfer2000h
a reply to: sosobad




Nothing is good enough for you is it? Are you saying that they didn't say what they said?


I see sarcasm has left you behind, as I am saying that it can be on youtube that doesn't prove it is true.


So rather than go look and research it you post back a sarcastic comment, you really want to find the truth don't you? What else should I expect from someone like you I suppose.
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posted on May, 15 2014 @ 06:25 PM
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These peaceful anti-Kiev activists have never been part of May 2, because they were on holiday at the Black Sea.



Just to clear this up: This was two month before the tragedy.
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posted on May, 15 2014 @ 06:31 PM
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originally posted by: Siddharta
These peaceful anti-Kiev activists have never been part of May 2, because they were on holiday at the Black Sea.



Just to clear this up: This was two month before the tragedy.


Is this Odessa?
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posted on May, 15 2014 @ 06:36 PM
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Yes it is.
The German poster even seemed to like that the pro-Ukrainians were beaten up. And the only comment said: This video shows, that there is only little support to Kiev.
I myself only see a little group of normal people being attacked by knights in black.

I can't believe these people stayed away from May 2. Where were they when it got tough? Obviously they don't mind to beat up normal people, especially since they only were a few.

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posted on May, 15 2014 @ 06:40 PM
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originally posted by: Siddharta
a reply to: sosobad
Yes it is.
The German poster even seemed to like that the pro-Ukrainians were beaten up. And the only comment said: This video shows, that there is only little support to Kiev.
I myself only see a little group of normal people being attacked by knights in black.

I can't believe these people stayed away from May 2. Where were they when it got tough? Obviously they don't mind to beat up normal people, especially since they only were a few.


This proves that they set themselves on fire? I am going to ask you this again, did you watch the video I posted?

There is leaked tapes today showing that the Pro-Kiev mayor of Odessa planned this.



posted on May, 15 2014 @ 06:41 PM
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posted on May, 15 2014 @ 06:58 PM
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This does not proof that they sat themselves on fire. This only proofs that the other side was very aggressive and radical either.

I don't understand why you have so much trouble with the possibility that the people in the building could have set themselves on fire. In all that battling and fear it could easily have happened that one of them dropped a molotov. But is that really important? People died, because both sides got on the rim of humanity.

I watched a lot of videos meanwhile. It is well known meanwhile that a carate club called "Berserks" started to rescue people from the building and even chased away stupid molotov-throwers. It is not all black and white. People behaved differently. Some came to consciousness, some did not.

Here is a very good report of a photographer who was present at all stages of the event:

Photo Chronicles

The biggest problem is the behaviour of the police. But then again remember that the chief of police was not set in by the interim gouvernement, but was there before.
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posted on May, 15 2014 @ 07:11 PM
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originally posted by: Siddharta
a reply to: sosobad

This does not proof that they sat themselves on fire. This only proofs that the other side was very aggressive and radical either.

I don't understand why you have so much trouble with the possibility that the people in the building could have set themselves on fire. In all that battling and fear it could easily have happened that one of them dropped a molotov. But is that really important? People died, because both sides got on the rim of humanity.

I watched a lot of videos meanwhile. It is well known meanwhile that a carate club called "Berserks" started to rescue people from the building and even chased away stupid molotov-throwers. It is not all black and white. People behaved differently. Some came to consciousness, some did not.

Here is a very good report of a photographer who was present at all stages of the event:

Photo Chronicles

The biggest problem is the behaviour of the police. But then again remember that the chief of police was not set in by the interim gouvernement, but was there before.


This is a fire that started after the pro-Kiev supporters broke into the building, on the stairs like the official story. The only people around when it started were pro-Kiev.



This is an image of a deceased man that the pro-Kiev supporters said was their own, he is wearing the ribbon of St George, why would a pro-Kiev supporter be wearing a Russian ribbon? They took all his identification and the vest with the ribbon so he could not be identified/detected.

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But you know all this because you watched the video right, the video of the pro-Kiev supporters breaking in to the trade union building and the same video of the pro-Kiev supporters taking all the dead peoples passports so they cannot be identified. But I don't need to show you this because you watched it......

The police officer was indeed arrested and then let go, if this man is as guilty as they say supporting anti-Kiev supporters why let him go so he can escape? You would think they would have kept him in jail but no and now he is missing.

It is late in my part of the world, I am going to bed.
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posted on May, 15 2014 @ 07:17 PM
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This proves that they set themselves on fire?


And how exactly does this prove that?



posted on May, 15 2014 @ 07:18 PM
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originally posted by: tsurfer2000h
a reply to: sosobad




This proves that they set themselves on fire?


And how exactly does this prove that?


Do you see the ?, I was asking that poster a question, this thread is about the fire isn't it? You just trolling again? You find any evidence yet or are you still embracing ignorance?
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posted on May, 15 2014 @ 07:40 PM
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You just trolling again?


Truth hurts bad enough to call names...Classic.

Btw no proof who started that fire.



posted on May, 15 2014 @ 07:46 PM
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Do you see the ?, I was asking that poster a question, this thread is about the fire isn't it? You just trolling again? You find any evidence yet or are you still embracing ignorance?


Well since you made the statement as to who started the fire, and the fact I said it doesn't show who did,
The burden falls to you to show evidence that backs your claims not the other way around.

You stated who you thought did it now it is up to you to prove they did, as for me I have stated that I don't know because it doesn't show.



posted on May, 16 2014 @ 12:29 AM
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I can´t believe how ignorant some people on here are!?! All the evidence points to the fire being lit by pro-Kiev protestors, yet they close their eyes (and their mind). How could the fire be lit otherwise??? There are only pro-Kiev protestors around!

Some people apparently either have an agenda, or they are full of hatred against all Russian, so they try to twist everything against Russia and pro-Russia instead of keeping an open mind. Sad!



posted on May, 16 2014 @ 12:33 AM
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originally posted by: tsurfer2000h
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Do you see the ?, I was asking that poster a question, this thread is about the fire isn't it? You just trolling again? You find any evidence yet or are you still embracing ignorance?


Well since you made the statement as to who started the fire, and the fact I said it doesn't show who did,
The burden falls to you to show evidence that backs your claims not the other way around.

You stated who you thought did it now it is up to you to prove they did, as for me I have stated that I don't know because it doesn't show.


Alright Adolf you believe what you want, the fact of the matter is there was a fire started when there was only pro-Kiev supporters around, they are the only people there, do you maybe think they purposefully did not show the actual person because this might be the fire that burnt the building down but at least I am looking for the truth about how those people died whereas you are quite content being a white knight for the neo-Nazis
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posted on May, 16 2014 @ 01:13 AM
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what? no church to lock women and children in and burn to the ground?

a gov building?

they could step up their game.

maybe just blast it like they did the kremlin a few yrs ago, with tanks.



posted on May, 16 2014 @ 02:13 AM
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I hardly believe pro Russians burnt pro Russians, and will add the post with the evidence/pictures.

Which I believe truly solves this for the most reasonable assumption.

www.abovetopsecret.com...
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