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originally posted by: Telos
originally posted by: sosobad
a reply to: intrptr
No problem the more people that see it the better
a reply to: Telos
Just looking at those pics shows that really we haven't come very far as a species since we left behind living caves and throwing rocks at each other, we like to think of ourselves as some evolved know it all species but we are still just cavemen who can't resolve issues without killing each other, sickening.
True. More advanced we become technologically, more violent seams to get our R factor. Below some more pictures, again from independent sources on what happened in Odessa after the fire (WARNING, some images are very hard to take)
originally posted by: yuppa
a reply to: Reinmax
PRopaganda is all over the net. Its the same tactic the palestinains use when they get retaliated on in a attack.
So what 47 terrorist died? we kill that many in drone strikes from time to time. Just because they dress as civies does not make them so. Its a old trick and ya bought it hook line sinker.
Still they brought on the violence when they murdered 3-4 ukranian supporters. Tit for TAT.
originally posted by: yuppa
a reply to: InvisibleOwl
The pro ukranians set the fire no doubt,BUT what they are not doing is showing WHY the incident occurred. there are 3 to 4 verifiable dead ukranian supporters who were killed earlier that day. the youtube video reminds me of the vids of palestians getting shot at in retaliation and then feighning innocence as to why they were attacked.
originally posted by: Aloysius the Gaul
originally posted by: anHairInTheSoup
originally posted by: intrptr
It manipulates peoples minds to think they are something more than they are; ordinary Ukrainians defending their sovereignty from a bunch of hired criminal brutes.
amen to that
they are resisting a new order imposed on them by force. Even if they are manipulated in every way possible i feel most of them are standing up against nazism first of all reasons.
The only fascists here are the Russians
Western officials and the Ukrainian government insist that Russians have led, organized and equipped the fighters.
A deeper look at the 12th Company — during more than a week of visiting its checkpoints, interviewing its fighters and observing them in action against a Ukrainian military advance here on Friday — shows that in its case neither portrayal captures the full story.
The rebels of the 12th Company appear to be Ukrainians but, like many in the region, have deep ties to and affinity for Russia. They are veterans of the Soviet, Ukrainian or Russian Armies, and some have families on the other side of the border. Theirs is a tangled mix of identities and loyalties.
The uprising in Eastern Ukraine get sympathies from the Maidan management. Maidan uprising was betrayed by the coup junta and the Maidan Patriots are now talking about Maidan II.