Black Triangles: The Worst Kept Secret

Black Triangles: The Worst Kept Secret
The US tends to typically develop advanced aircraft in fairly full public view in terms of proposals, funding, development, quantities and problems. The current F-22, F-35 and B-2 bomber projects have more or less proceeded in that manner. But when aircraft or other projects are extremely top secret, they get buried too deeply to trace, from the initial black budget allotments through to the various, aspects of their development and well into theaters of operation.

The U-2, SR-71 and the F-117A from the depths of Lockheed’s famed Skunk Works didn’t become known to the public until after years in practical use. Today the evidence is over whelming, secrets can be kept by aerospace industries and government. The so-called “black triangles” can be added to the list of secret black budget items. Funding would have come variously from “Star Wars” money, some of trillion that the Pentagon lost, programs that never were, and typically and easily done, “overruns,” tacked onto other projects built such as the very expensive B-2 bomber and the F-117A.

Thousands of sightings of the triangles make it hard to quibble with that blanket assessment. The triangles exist. Verification comes continually that these mind-blowing craft exist. Almost every typical American citizens witness a huge and dark triangle moving low, slow and silently overhead. Some are so shaken by the experience that they pay particular attention to the vehicles, enough to make a decent determinations of the unique characteristics of the craft. The differences between the new method of hovering and moving through the air and that of conventional aircraft of any type are unmistakable and troubling to some witnesses. An event not be forgotten.
As a consequence and not so strangely, we know more about triangles, unofficially, than any aircraft ever secretly produced in this country. Most of us interested in the term “triangles” know from regular media accounts that these craft demonstrate uncanny aerial displays to the public in the US and the UK almost daily. Rarely are these craft reported in any area outside of the US and Western Europe. Being so publically displayed on Western soil, why is it that after about thirty years of being witnessed these craft have not been revealed to the American public?

What is the point of hiding such remarkable craft if the intelligence agencies of potential enemies and even the man-on-the-street can easily figure out that these fabulous craft are our government’s utility replacement for the dismissed space shuttle and manned rockets? Why allow the American public to puzzle upon why our leaders and planners have failed us, lost our edge in space to nations using rocket technology that we have abandoned for the most part and yet seemingly have forced us to purchase rides for our equipment and crew from others? It doesn’t make good sense unless there is an ace up Uncle’s sleeve.

There are aspects to the situation that are not so simple to explain. But first, we need to establish the importance of the triangles to our real world situation. The triangles (and similarly powered craft) are the greatest development in the history of mechanical devices since the invention of the wheel. These machines are not true aircraft. They do not use the atmosphere (air) for lift or propulsion. Their basic feature sidesteps the effects of gravity. That totally different method of locomotion will allow us to literally transform human activities on earth and explorations into space. Basically, there are a mode of quick, reliable and low-cost transportation that will replace several other types currently used in/on the air, land and sea.

In addition, their almost miraculous bending of physics contrary to conventional views automatically gives them the distinction of being the greatest weapon ever placed in the hands of a world power. That feature alone is enough to explain why they remain top secret devices.
How that secret is handled is something else entirely and seems puzzling on the face of it. Seeming to move in impossible and unbelievable ways is the key to why we are allowed to see them performing in exactly such a manner. The secret keepers want us to notice the bizarre shapes and antics. Yet, why display the triangles so publically and not bring them forth after at least three decades of being reported in our skies?

Because it is all a charade, aided and abetted by all areas of aviation, both military and civilian. The segments of society that should be most interested in such reports are mum on the triangles, ignoring all incidents and lying about those they cannot ignore. –Sound familiar? Haven’t we endured over half a century of the (apparent) lack of official acknowledgment and investigations into the UFO phenomena?
The strategy behind that continued deceit is brilliant, even if a carryover of how officialdom has always dealt with the UFO, but it has another key component. And that is that the sightings of the triangles dovetail into and help perpetuate the on-going UFO drama that we live with every day. (Regardless of what many of you want to think, genuine UFOs, alien craft, present a very serious situation to all of Earth that eventually must conclude in some form of publically announced contact with ETs which will only be the beginning of the intervention.)

a reply to: AliensunContinuation of thread, Part II

As it stands, a mysterious triangle exhibiting UFO-like capabilities is understandably labeled as a typical UFO sighting (another non-event) and with that classification assigned, all need for further investigation evaporates. Broadcast TV news: “Put on your tin-foil hats, folks, another mysterious triangle reported hovering over Boston last night.” A follow up sentence will advise that the supposed event should not be taken too seriously as government officials showed little interest in the public’s reports of the object. So it was something or nothing, but definitely not a secret government triangle-shaped craft because they don’t fly them around in public like that. Right? After all, allowing a top secret craft to deliberately hover low over Boston on a Saturday night to be seen in all of its glory is totally absurd. Such an event goes against the basic rules in any playbook for black budget projects. The damned thing should be out West someplace, Area 51, maybe, not shocking the early night bar crowd in Boston. And so it goes, a type of UFO is witnessed but only civilians take notice.

Most of the world knows what the English letters of “UFO” represent and what they mean in some fashion. That understanding, that concept in itself, is a world-wide phenomenon of some note. Recognition and acceptance of the true meaning behind alien UFOs is a natural and required progressive step for humanity to travel because the triangles (one way or another) were derived from the bizarre physics of the UFOs and that foundation secret must be kept as long as possible even as the triangles become commonplace in our lives. So we have a rigged paradox surrounding the triangles/UFO relationship saga.

The second reason why the strange ways of the triangles is also strategic is just as important and twisted. Less than friendly countries will have noted for years now the reports of triangles in the Western media and have pay close attention to the details that clearly eliminate the craft from being conventional, even advanced, true aircraft. How do they react to such news? They know full well that UFOs are real alien craft, and they note that our machines mimic UFOs. Anything but fools, they know that we know, somehow, the secret of the UFO method of power. They feverishly work on their theories if not prototypes. They would make bold and varied attempts to steal highly classified data in any way imaginable. They are masters at it. If the English hacker Gary McKinnon can learn important but not critical details about our space fleets with a little perseverance and computer skill, so can any country with a decent spy program. Have they had any luck? We can imagine that they have obtained a substantial knowledge of our operations. (As a counter intelligence ploy we may have given them access to just enough F-22, F-35 and B-2 plans to keep them occupied in other areas as well.)

As a result of our best(?) capabilities being in full view to our potential enemies, the current situation in the world is generally stable because of the existence of the triangles. However, it is a very unbalance stalemate of course. As our black secret is known on far shores, it is doubtful that any major effort of any kind will be started by the laggards that could provoke the wrath of a fleet of space-capable, UFO-like triangles carrying a variety of weapons.

With the capabilities inherent in the triangles, without a doubt, we control all near-earth space, off-planet exploration and any serious surface wars that would be directly against us. Not until a country announces a similar craft will we be forced to make our own admission and display our true dominance for the public to see. The longer it takes our enemies—and potential competitors--to build their versions of the massless triangles, the better the odds against their ever gaining parity on that score alone. Despite what they suspect or know about our triangles, the smart potential adversaries would keep quiet as they do their own intense work.
As stated earlier, the new principles of physics in the triangles is the greatest weapon every developed by man for war…and we must add, also the greatest thing for commerce, as also was true for the wheel.

Any use of the new secret craft would not be left to the whim of military commanders, or even top government officials fueled by their own politician agendas but from a larger, more benign, general strategy of the world not based on old versions and visions of world conquest. It will be more of a philosophical ideology than being politically based. The so-called “coming of the saucers” in 1947 has disturbed the usually forces that rule Earth. Initially, the earthlings in control panicked a world war had recently ended and political ideologies were running rampant across the world. These days, evidently the ETs have told Earth’s leaders what they must do. We see signs everywhere of the changes and earnest efforts to transform the population of the planet from one state of mind to a more rational state of mine and being.
The New World Order, a dream for some and a nightmare for others, is being social engineered. Done in some countries by their own initiative and forced onto others by the UN to bring to fruition the plan. The major intent is to save the world from the destructive effects of mankind’s boundless consumption of resources before it sickens and dies as a living planet. Rescuing humanity from its own restless need for war and/or economic conquest is secondary.

The eventual introduction of the triangles and similarly powered craft into commercial avenues and expanded but benign military use will ease many of the approaching burdens around the world. But as the ships go about their duties carrying aid in those dark days, many fists will be raised and shaken at them in futile anger. Let it not be more than that display. Otherwise, a ship with troops will be quickly summoned. Complete freedom will be remembered as a term briefly used in the foundation of the United States of American, but it was short-lived and was only a dream anyway. Perhaps a reset of the human apparatus of existence isn’t such a bad plan. Maybe there is a better way.

The black triangles are interesting because they are NOT the "typical UFO sightings", alone for the fact that several/many (?) people for once agree on a specific shape and other attributes of those craft, often in detail. This is different to your "typical" UFO sighting which may involve all kinds of shapes and all kinds of stuff what "people see".

The black triangles are ALSO extremely interesting since they were supposedly seen by a lot more people simultaneously. TWO major events come to mind: BELGIAN WAVE + PHOENIX Triangle UFOs (after the "phoenix lights" sighting which I want to point out seem to be separate from the Phoenix triangle UFO sighting).

HOWEVER, I have a big, big problem with these sightings.

This is that the amount of "awesomeness" of the sightings with craft often reported miles long and the number of people who say they saw them is in no relationship to the evidence we have - which is basically ALMOST nothing!

It won't and never will go into my head that that gigantic, black triangle craft were seen in Belgium over many days/weeks...same thing happen over a MAJOR metropolis in the US...and there is no footage or at least a number of photos which show those objects allegedly seen by so many people. In Belgium, they were even reported seen by police.

YET..we don't have a number of conclusive photos which show at least something and we don't have footage.

Explain this to me! Look, if I let a large RC blimp fly over Phoenix, rest assured you can find a bunch of videos the very next day on YT, leaving no doubt about this event. And mile-long triangles are flying over Phoenix or Belgium...and we have NOTHING. Zero.

a reply to: Aliensun

Didn't read the second post yet.

I've seen the triangle for over 30 minutes. I know two things. It uses some form of propulsion I do not understand yet. AND It flew the same flight path as many Chinooks and F15s.

It didn't make a sound. It was solid. It "floated" slower than is acceptable to produce lift for a plane. It didn't have enough volume to produce lift using "lighter than air."

I say it was USAF.

The Board is set, but how many people do you think will really be fooled? Or maybe this is what pulls us out of WW III in a believable way? If that's the case, I may choose to be willfully ignorant.

originally posted by: KnightLight
It didn't have enough volume to produce lift using "lighter than air."

Wouldn't that depend entirely upon its mass?

You can buy very small mylar RC balloons with motors and batteries that have plenty of lift.

originally posted by: draknoir2

originally posted by: KnightLight
It didn't have enough volume to produce lift using "lighter than air."

Wouldn't that depend entirely upon its mass?

You can buy very small mylar RC balloons with motors and batteries that have plenty of lift.

Seeing something at 200 feet in the air and right above you over many minutes makes you know things. It was a solid triangle. Think of filling a chinook with hydrogen and tell me does that float? If there were pilots and they turned on the cockpit lights I would have seen their faces.

This blocked out a Large portion of the sky which was full of stars.

There was no sound.

I looked at the back on purpose and could not distinguish any kind of propulsion. If you looked at the craft head on it's not very tall. The cross section looks like something radar would miss. It really looks like a cross between a B2 and a F117. It may be bigger than either of those, but I don't know the size of a B2. It's way bigger than an F117 though.

The craft did not APPEAR to have vertical stabilizers.

originally posted by: KnightLight

originally posted by: draknoir2

originally posted by: KnightLight
It didn't have enough volume to produce lift using "lighter than air."

Wouldn't that depend entirely upon its mass?

You can buy very small mylar RC balloons with motors and batteries that have plenty of lift.

Seeing something at 200 feet in the air and right above you over many minutes makes you know things. It was a solid triangle. Think of filling a chinook with hydrogen and tell me does that float? If there were pilots and they turned on the cockpit lights I would have seen their faces.

This blocked out a Large portion of the sky which was full of stars.

There was no sound.

I looked at the back on purpose and could not distinguish any kind of propulsion.

Sorry, but you have no way of knowing the mass or density, and therefore cannot rule out neutral buoyancy craft.


A little background - my father and two of my best friends were witnesses to the southern IL triangles right around the time of the Lebanon incident. I'm a believer, but I also believe them to be stealthy, lighter than air craft. Terrestrial craft.

originally posted by: draknoir2



A little background - my father and two of my best friends were witnesses to the southern IL triangles right around the time of the Lebanon incident. I'm a believer, but I also believe them to be stealthy, lighter than air craft. Terrestrial craft.

A little background. Why was there no sound? How was it moving forward and staying oriented with it's movement pointing forward as an isosceles triangle? When I say 200 ft I mean straight up. I looked to see if it was going to hit the houses behind me. This is in a HIGH wind area in NC.

One would think I would hear propellers in otherwise complete silence. If it had been a helicopter it would have blown me on my ass. It had a high powered spot light that lit up maybe a 25 ft diameter on the ground around me.

It was painted black.

originally posted by: Aliensun
a reply to: AliensunContinuation of thread, Part II



These days, evidently the ETs have told Earth’s leaders what they must do. We see signs everywhere of the changes and earnest efforts to transform the population of the planet from one state of mind to a more rational state of mine and being.


The New World Order, a dream for some and a nightmare for others, is being social engineered. Done in some countries by their own initiative and forced onto others by the UN to bring to fruition the plan. The major intent is to save the world from the destructive effects of mankind’s boundless consumption of resources before it sickens and dies as a living planet. Rescuing humanity from its own restless need for war and/or economic conquest is secondary.

I can see this being an actual scenario. It would explain the direction much of the world seems to be moving in these days. It would also explain the environmental focus of a lot of the contactee and abduction material, as well as the profound spiritual shift that sometimes occurs in the people caught up in these phenomena.

A couple of points to add to this theory. It involves two reported sightings. One off the California coast and one somewhere over land in the US. I don't recall where now. Anyway, the one over land, there was a guy hunting big game. He had a scoped rifle and one of these huge triangles floated by. He looked at it through his scope and the only thing he could make sense of was the typical 'Rescue Here' with arrow indicating where to open the craft to rescue the pilot. Definitely a military craft. It also flew silently.

The second report off the coast of California involved a fishing boat. Not sure of the size, but they often carry .223 'ranch rifles' because of the narcotics running in the area. One of these triangles flew over it and turned on a bright beam on the boat and one guy shot at the craft with the .223. A hatch opened up on the bottom and a guy yelled to quit shooting at them. Then a black helicopter came off the top and came down and took photos of the boat and personnel (from an opened side door like a Huey would have) and then flew back over the top of the craft and not seen.

This brought about a theory of my own. These sound like some type of helicopter carrier. Helicopters in general are not long range aircraft. Having a close offshore floating helicopter base would be a great advantage. And the location of this triangle off the southern coast of California would be prime territory for spotting and interdicting drug runners and generally scaring the heck out of them.

Saying that, I still believe some of these are not our craft. Possibly our craft were reverse engineered, or they are huge lighter than air craft. The record for heavy lift is hands down given to blimps, or lighter than air craft. I have seen documentaries on new large craft being built. However, they were not triangle shaped. And I do have an issue with them being over any large population areas. The sightings in Belgium had other phenomenon involved with them like red ball type probes exiting the center dim red light and flying around buildings, and other structures and returning to the craft. We wouldn't need to send probes around well know structures. So, I do believe there is overlap of different triangle craft.

Ever notice how some drones; like the X-47, and some others are also flying "triangles"?

Course, these aren't the "UFO" triangles, they're bigger, right? Actually they are; but only by virtue of greater length, and thus a somewhat different aspect.

Here is a possible preview of the kinds of craft, and technologies that may already exist...



The propulsion system is quite unique, though not quite the type used in the TR3B. These modern systems use an artificial gravity system based on the unique and novel physics of Burkhard Heim link

These new systems use Heim - Lorentx force to propel the craft. However, it remains unlikely that Terrestrial craft can actually hover, as they still use the air for lift when in atmosphere. "Directional" thrusters are not powerful enough to support the craft in close proximity to Earth.

I believe these are US military craft and do exist. I think my old housemate saw one VERY close in New York State.

I also scratch my head at NASA retiring the shuttle when the ISS is still active. Relying on Russia for transport of astronauts? That is perplexing. I know there are civilian replacements being developed, but those would be insanely cheap cover projects for something like gravity-canceling giant black triangles.

My wife and I saw one of these black triangles.

The one we saw coincided with a small star like craft doing impossible aerial maneuvers and then a punctuated moment of lost time, and then 15 minutes or so of viewing the craft from the underside. I find it difficult to believe that what we saw and experienced could be possible with current human technologies, I have my theories about where this may have been from and so forth, but I have a really hard time believing that the USAF or Lockheed, or Boeing or anyone else currently has the technology to produce the effects we witnessed.

Here is a link to my thread describing this.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

It's possible these are craft using a new type of propulsion "anti gravity" well it's hardly new is it bit it has remained black

I believe this was work not of reverse engineered alien crashed crafts but recovered from the Nazis after WWII and perfected

It's highly unlikely to become declassified until the likes of Russia and China catch up it'll remain black and this out of the public eye to be countered

This was not bad, OP, not bad at all. If you remove all the bits that refer to ETs and space people you'd have it pretty close to right.

eta: as to why you'd keep it classified, that should be obvious to the casual observer. If you have the physics to do this, it would present an incredible opportunity for misuse. As Larry Niven once said - 'the effectiveness of a drive system as a weapon is directly proportional to its efficiency'.

originally posted by: KnightLight

This blocked out a Large portion of the sky which was full of stars.

When I wrote my post further above, I initially added a paragraph...but deleted it again. Since you now said EXACTLY THAT what I mentioned (but deleted)..I feel obliged to add it.

I added to my post (but deleted later) that

a vast majority of the triangle sightings is about people who see "something" possibly at night and then, in ASTONISHING numbers mention "that it blocked out the stars".

As if they actually did not see a shape/craft per se, but only three lights and then *concluded* about the shape because "it blocked out the stars".

The fact that you literally used the same terminology "blocked out the stars" I find...noteworthy.

So..let me ask you: Did you really see a solid, defined shape, a structure....or did you (and many others) rather see lights and then "blocked out stars"? (Which for me would be quite different to actually *seeing* a structure of a craft.)

a reply to: Aliensun

The black triangle is alien. I've seen them veryclose up in person. You produced no evidence that they are government. You did however say that our military can keep secrets, which they can't, julius Rosenberg ring a bell? Hell the plans for nukes are on Wikipedia. The stealth was secret for a while until one crashed in china and they refused to give it back.

I do not believe all of these are military...if any. One being the cost to fly them around leisurely and two flying around populated neighborhoods, makes zero sense.

Having worked on a big, Blue, triangle(10?) years ago in association with the US Air Force's BattleLab, I fail to understand why such fantastical theories continue to exist about "Blue"'s black brethren.

It is true that "Blue" was recognized, and funded, as a "grey" budget project, and if sufficiently successful, would likely have entered service as a black ops surveillance vehicle for extremely high altitude, long duration, continuous coverage intelligence platform. But battlefields change, and the development time-line extended past the operational need.

Airships can move Very slowly, and of course, hover motionless. For those of us used to seeing anything in the sky that is not a cloud, the effect of seeing an obviously "artificial" structure, especially one as large as an airship tends to be, float in mid-air motionless, is often dis-orienting at a very primal level. But it has nothing to do with "Anti-gravity propulsion" or anything of "alien" technology.

Airships do not have to be the typical "cigar" shape everyone expects; in fact, a "delta", "V", or triangular craft has definite aerodynamic and stability advantages over the standard cigar shape.

The "V" or triangle shape also enjoys a degree of "cognitive stealth" as well.
By exhibiting an almost aircraft-like shape while behaving in a non-typical aircraft manner, the vehicle instills a degree of cognitive dissonance in the viewer, which encourages the viewer to either dismiss the experience ("I didn't see that, it could not have been real"), or obsess over the experience; which makes the viewer easier to discredit as "unbalanced".

And let's not forget the opportunities a large slow moving surface poses for visual mis-direction.

A large black surface seen against a dark night sky can be made to look like virtually anything with the proper on-board external lighting: could even be made to appear to speed off into space at "impossible" speeds!

a reply to: mattsawaufo

No stealth ever crashed in China. The F-117 was secret until they had to start flying it when it could be seen, so they declassified it. There was a crash in the US shortly beforehand.