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posted on May, 2 2014 @ 01:56 PM
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Being born in 1965 Ive just discovered my retirement age has been raised from 65 to 70 years of age and its pretty obvious this budget is going to really hurt middle income earners and the poor and the unemployed.They are thinking of tripling the medicare levy and you will now pay to see a doctor even on my paltry 45k thats 900 bucks I cant afford a year...and these idiots aren't even fiscally responsible they just bought 14 billion dollars worth of flying garbage in the form of the F35.They spend like idiots and the poor and disadvantaged have to pick up the tab whilst entities like Google and Amazon dont pay one red cent in tax.We've elected robber barons and our treasurer is the Sherriff of Nottingham,please God let Clive Palmer block this bastardry in the Senate




posted on May, 2 2014 @ 02:00 PM
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a reply to: khnum

Well I can relate to that... I live in the US, are pres,congress and senate are corrupted.
I was born in 1954... my home is in foreclosure and I may be able to retire 20 years after I am dead.



posted on May, 2 2014 @ 02:05 PM
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a reply to: nighthawk1954

The two party political system of the Western world has reached critical morass we have seven ex prime ministers getting 250,000 a year platinum cards,there are travel expenses for ex-ministers and all these people are making a motza from speaking circuits,writing books and directorships hell my state government just voted itself a 60 percent payrise and our state Premier earns more than your President....and these pigs want us to sacrifice.



posted on May, 2 2014 @ 02:07 PM
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a reply to: khnum

Obama and his wife have taken a estimated almost a billion dollars in vactions.



posted on May, 2 2014 @ 02:34 PM
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a reply to: nighthawk1954

Our last Prime Minister will receive in perpetuity 600 000 a year in benefits he is currently 52 by the time he dies he could rack up 20 million.....his wife is worth 210 million.



posted on May, 2 2014 @ 02:35 PM
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When people get sore over the government "raising retirement age" it simply reveals them as someone who has fully bought into a cradle-to-grave government system of banking, taxation, and entitlements. No offense.

Instead, you should find something you love doing so that you won't have to "retire", save your money rather than spend it, and get off the dole, even if the only money you ever expect to take is social security (In the US anyway). Who know, maybe you'll "retire" at 60 - whatever that word means. I am in the process of doing that now.



posted on May, 2 2014 @ 02:52 PM
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a reply to: ScientiaFortisDefendit

On a limited income you do not accumulate vast amounts of superannuation which means now if you voluntarily retire at 65 you'll be eating away a vast chunk of your super before you get the pension.What about tradesmen whose backs and knees start failing them at 55 we dont all work in offices,not many 69 year olds can swing bricks or lay tiles.

My country has always looked after the disadvantaged but now that looks to be changing and Im sorry I do not wish to live in a winner and loser society where corporations rule like yours.I supposedly live in a democracy not an oligarchy.



posted on May, 2 2014 @ 03:25 PM
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a reply to: khnum

Eh, I guess I was a bit idealistic with my post. It is not proving easy to escape from the paradigm, I will tell you. I have a ways to go even if I am successful.

There is talk about raising the retirement age here once in a while and it gets the same reception.



posted on May, 2 2014 @ 03:35 PM
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originally posted by: khnum
Being born in 1965 Ive just discovered my retirement age has been raised from 65 to 70 years of age and its pretty obvious this budget is going to really hurt middle income earners and the poor and the unemployed.They are thinking of tripling the medicare levy and you will now pay to see a doctor even on my paltry 45k thats 900 bucks I cant afford a year...and these idiots aren't even fiscally responsible they just bought 14 billion dollars worth of flying garbage in the form of the F35.They spend like idiots and the poor and disadvantaged have to pick up the tab whilst entities like Google and Amazon dont pay one red cent in tax.We've elected robber barons and our treasurer is the Sherriff of Nottingham,please God let Clive Palmer block this bastardry in the Senate


The JSF is an unworkable piece of garbage. Hopefully the proposal to raise retirement to 70 from 65 is blocked. Good luck, and best wishes.



posted on May, 2 2014 @ 03:45 PM
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originally posted by: ScientiaFortisDefendit
When people get sore over the government "raising retirement age" it simply reveals them as someone who has fully bought into a cradle-to-grave government system of banking, taxation, and entitlements. No offense.

Instead, you should find something you love doing so that you won't have to "retire", save your money rather than spend it, and get off the dole, even if the only money you ever expect to take is social security (In the US anyway). Who know, maybe you'll "retire" at 60 - whatever that word means. I am in the process of doing that now.


Now you are insulting this old guy of not ready to retire age. This is not an entitlement we have paid many years into it forcibly we were never interested in cradle to grave that is a phrase a younger generation created. Who the hell are you to tell anyone how they should retire?

The entitlement portion of SS is used to buy votes by giving away money to people who been injured, or sick. It was never intended for that. Now that portion of the system is corrupt like none other. Raising the retirement age breaks a contract the government made with the people of that generation.



posted on May, 2 2014 @ 04:01 PM
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originally posted by: khnum
Being born in 1965 Ive just discovered my retirement age has been raised from 65 to 70 years of age and its pretty obvious this budget is going to really hurt middle income earners and the poor and the unemployed.They are thinking of tripling the medicare levy and you will now pay to see a doctor even on my paltry 45k thats 900 bucks I cant afford a year...and these idiots aren't even fiscally responsible they just bought 14 billion dollars worth of flying garbage in the form of the F35.They spend like idiots and the poor and disadvantaged have to pick up the tab whilst entities like Google and Amazon dont pay one red cent in tax.We've elected robber barons and our treasurer is the Sherriff of Nottingham,please God let Clive Palmer block this bastardry in the Senate


This country is going to burn just like the Ukraine. Australia will have an Australian spring by November. Mark my words.This up comming Budget is just fuel for the fire! In Europé this is called austerity.Here it's called everything is fine and we are the luckiest country on Earth.
I have written of this Before.Australia will soon learn the truth behind the outlaw biker laws, it was never intended for bikers. May is the begining.
edit on 2-5-2014 by 13th Zodiac because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 2 2014 @ 04:38 PM
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a reply to: 13th Zodiac

For now I hope Clive Palmer wont sell out and block draconian changes,Im not ready for a molotov cocktail yet but by God if there is demonstrations against this I will be there.



posted on May, 2 2014 @ 05:06 PM
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No unemployment benefits till 25,youth allowance which you can't live on instead,6 month wait after high school before any benefit paid our treasurer meanwhile will get 200000 per year cabinet pension,10 free flights for himself and his family per year etc etc,you may have to suffer but thats a sacrifice he's prepared to make.



posted on May, 2 2014 @ 05:12 PM
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a reply to: khnum

Clive Palmer isn't going to do anything. Even if he was to somehow gain power it would only be a case of the same agenda worded differently. No Politician in Canberra gives a toss about the feelings and opinions of Australian people.



posted on May, 2 2014 @ 05:20 PM
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a reply to: DarknStormy

At least we wont have too long a wait to see his colours.



posted on May, 2 2014 @ 06:12 PM
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I think it's a strong sign of how unhealthy our economy really is. The government is doing everything they can to keep people in work longer and tax them as much as humanly possible to try and bring our deficit back under control. Debt tax, increased medibank levy, increased retirement age, removing import restrictions on some things to try and encourage us to spend more money (more 'stuff' to tax), reducing the number of people near the end of their working lives from migrating to Australia. It's all a desperate cash grab.

I'm not quite sure how they expect this to work though, it's hard enough for people over 50 to find a new job at the best of times, imagine being 64, suddenly unemployed and having to find work because you're not eligable for retirement for another 6 years. No-one would want to hire you because of your age so you're have to go on unemployment benefits (if you don't have alot of cash saved up), where you're forced into the work-for-the-dole program doing menial tasks that don't improve your job opportunities just so you can get social benefits that aren't sufficient to cover the minimum cost of living.



posted on May, 2 2014 @ 07:05 PM
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a reply to: khnum

You forgot to say that our Politicians gave themselves massive pay increases as one of the first things they did once being voted into power. Not unlike the little Hitler in Queensland did.

The two-party preferred system has been showing it's limitations for quite some time, and it seems according to one poll I saw that Aussies are finally understanding what is wrong with the system. Not many have thought about what we should replace it with though.

The F35 like all aircraft in development has suffered from cost over-runs and setbacks: that is NORMAL. Aussies cannot afford to pull out of the JSF program this far into it for a couple of reasons, all relating to our northern neighbours.

1/ We currently have nothing in the air that can survive an encounter with the Sukhoi being flown by Indonesia.

2/ As per #1, this means we are unable to defend our airspace.

3/ Without the F-111 we have nothing that can strike at the northern neighbour and return safely. Simulations run by our experts have shown that all FA-18 Hornets sent on such a raid would be wiped out before reaching target, or at best over-run and shot down on the return.

4/ The F35 is a Gen 5 aircraft that will have superiority over the Sukhoi and other aircraft currently in service in the Asian countries to our north. In which case we will be able to defend ourselves and strike when necessary without taking too heavy a toll.

Our Government is feeding us The Big Lie. Australia is not so far in debt as they would have us believe. The reality is equivalent to owing $100,000 on a $600,000 mortgage, according to figures supplied in an article I read last night.

We do need a revolution. Not an armed insurrection, but a peaceful overtake of power in our country. Problem there is no one has the balls to stand up and form a line that will not be passed.



posted on May, 2 2014 @ 07:21 PM
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originally posted by: Oldie48
a reply to: khnum


We do need a revolution. Not an armed insurrection, but a peaceful overtake of power in our country. Problem there is no one has the balls to stand up and form a line that will not be passed.


Correction



posted on May, 2 2014 @ 07:42 PM
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a reply to: Oldie48

The F35 is a lemon we should of bought F22's or the Eurofighter.

I am in Queensland and yes Campbell Newman is a definate example of a politician rising beyond their level of competenence at least Joh as dictator had cranes on the skyline,mining and other industries humming and health and education working this clown with an 80 billion deficit told James Packer he'd have to wait till 2016 to bid for a casino because they are building some other crappy building first so the 4 billion just went to Macau.

Neither state or federal government are promoting an environment to promote business expand the economy and thus tax revenues its just slash and burn razor gangs .

I dont know with electricity and water and other taxes skyrocketing a lot of us may have big enough balls soon,from swelling of them being squeezed with a vice.



posted on May, 2 2014 @ 08:02 PM
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a reply to: LordGoofus

Not only the old people but young people too somehow you've got to buy a car pay rego on it and search for a job on youth allowance till 25 they are proposing plus a 6 month wait after high school so where are they going to work Toyota?Ford?Holden? the mines which is now fly in fly out foreigners?





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