CNN Shocker: MH370 Intact, All Alive, Plane Was Followed By Military Jets

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posted on May, 4 2014 @ 06:05 PM
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originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: smurfy

develop a patent working on their time, using their information, and their materials. Any patent you develop while working for a company belongs to them free and clear.



You keep going on about that, I requote,

"employees who have been hired to do research in general usually do not have to assign THEIR INVENTIONS to their employers. Also, employees who have been hired for purposes other than to do research have no duty to assign their inventions to the employers." This is the thing, 'research in general' it's allowable, even if it's relevant..say from a totally different tack from what they are supposed to be doing.
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posted on May, 4 2014 @ 06:13 PM
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a reply to: smurfy

You SERIOUSLY think that a company that hires you, specifically to do research and development for them, is going to allow you to walk away with a patent? Seriously? In what world?

They were hired to do research FOR THE COMPANY. That means that any research you do is FOR THEM. Not for your own use. You're using THEIR time, THEIR materials, THEIR information, and they're just going to let you walk out the door with potentially a multimillion dollar patent that they don't control? Yeah, you keep believing that.

I know several people that have developed patents while working for companies, some of them were on their own time, and in EVERY case, that patent went to the company. There is NO WAY that any company is going to let you walk away with a patent that could make them millions of dollars. It will be in the contract that anything you develop goes to the company, since the ENTIRE PURPOSE of your job is doing research FOR THE COMPANY.



posted on May, 4 2014 @ 06:25 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

For the sake of argument or to contrast the difference...I seem to recall Google allowing people to keep their own creations and work...IF that was done under Google's 20% policy (which I'm not sure exists anymore). However, it was restrictive about that 1/5th time rule they had and I'll bet there was a stack of paper to make a lawyer catch his breath in making that proper and viable.

Assumed ownership is to the employer when on company time. That's how I've always understood it.



posted on May, 4 2014 @ 06:28 PM
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a reply to: Wrabbit2000

The whole point of your work is to do research for the company, so there's no way you're keeping the patent. Some companies will actually make you sign an agreement that anything you develop, even on your own time belongs to them, but most will only make you agree that anything on company time is theirs.

I don't care what company it is though, there's no WAY they're letting you walk out with 100% ownership of a patent worth major amounts of money.



posted on May, 4 2014 @ 06:57 PM
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a reply to: smurfy

I am curious to know if you are signed to a major
record label or film company & during your "assigned time"
you write new songs who owns them, you or them?

I am not not being funny, I have been there to some extent...
Patent Laws & Music Laws are a mess. Thank you for your time.

Cheers
Ektar



posted on May, 4 2014 @ 06:58 PM
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originally posted by: Wrabbit2000
a reply to: Zaphod58

For the sake of argument or to contrast the difference...I seem to recall Google allowing people to keep their own creations and work...IF that was done under Google's 20% policy (which I'm not sure exists anymore). However, it was restrictive about that 1/5th time rule they had and I'll bet there was a stack of paper to make a lawyer catch his breath in making that proper and viable.

Assumed ownership is to the employer when on company time. That's how I've always understood it.


I admit, it's scary when you are a chicken picking grit. But if people don't open their Gubs, nothings gonna happen. The lady here is entitled to have her say, and the Irony is that here with all the spouting, including mine, there is no valid contradiction to what she says.
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posted on May, 4 2014 @ 07:56 PM
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Look, Sara is a conspiracy theorist, trying to spread disinformation, and making it difficult for searchers do to do their job. The plane likely landed at low velocity on the ocean and sank intact, in a way that there was no break up of the aircraft and hence no debris field. Chelsey Shullenberger proved that this was possible when he landed his aircraft in the Hudson. There were no floating seat cushions or debris fields. Given the time frame that we are talking about for MH370, it simply filled with water and sank to the depths of the Indian ocean. End of story!
People talk about different systems pinging flight parameters at regular intervals to satellites that relay this information to Boeing or Rolls Royce, Malaysia airlines or whoever. Malaysia Airlines did not subscribe to any of these services, so the aircraft was not tracked by any satellites.
People talk about Boeing having a patent that can remotely control a plane and take control from the pilots. To entertain that someone would actually entertain doing this, for some nefarious purpose, would make you a racist conspiracy theorist.
There are military satellites that can read licence plates and track football size object in space. A 777 is not a football and was not spacebound. It was never more than 45,000 feet up, so get real folks!
The other possibility is that the two Iranians with fake passports hijacked the plane and flew it to a base in Iran, to be used to later attack American assets and start a war with Iran. It is widely reported that Iranians resent American exceptionalism and the freedoms that Americans enjoy. Conspiracy theorists won't buy this, stating that the lower bodies were photoshopped on a picture of the two standing together. If this were true it would suggest some ridiculous scenario, implicating the US or Israel ; truly ludicrous. If you listen to the alphabet news networks you would understand how dangerous a threat Iran represents, both to America and America's best and only friend in the middle east. For the past ten years Iran has been just months away from building a nuke and terrorizing the free world.
The American military takes this potential threat so seriously, that they have placed missiles in Poland to protect Europe from an Iranian attack with ICBM's. This has all been widely reported on CNN.
Other conspiracy nuts, even, go so far to assert that the CNN coverage of MH-370 is a distraction for events taking place in Ukraine. They assert that the MH370 story takes people's minds away from US troop deployments in Poland. Even worse, conspirists think that the US created the problems in Ukraine, by funding insurgents and that there are recordings of Victoria Nuland talking about spending large sums of money to stabilize Ukraine. This is bunk, as the new unelected government is recognized by the US. Washington would never support a non elected government unless it embraced freedom and democracy. Furthermore, the conspiracy kooks think that the globalists created the Ukraine crisis to keep the European Union from fragmenting. Some would go so far as to say that the US is trying to foment a war with Russia who is controlled by an irrational unstable kook named Putin. They say that for Russia to be concerned by it's encirclement by military bases is tantamount to delusional paranoid thinking, and ask what the US would do if the Russians placed missiles along the Canadian and Mexican borders. Clearly if such a ridiculous situation developed, the Nobel Prize winning president would negotiate a peaceful solution to the crises just as his idol and predecessor JFK did so tactfully in the past. It should be noted that JFK did not win a Nobel Peace Prize, and as much as JFK was respected we should have even greater confidence in our current Commander in Chief.
I am of hearing conspiracy theorists criticize globalists and a new world order and micro management of humanity. These globalists are intelligent, well intention ed captains of industry and banking and know how economies work. They have amassed enormous wealth through hard work and integrity and bootstrapping humanity to its current level of development and sophistication. They are educated and know how best to manage humanity. Democracies are composed largely of poorly educated populations engaged in group think and we all know how well this works. Globalists are already wealthy so they are more inclined to be altruistic and not trying to vote themselves a free lunch like the mass of humanity.
To engage in useless hypotheses and attribute nefarious motives behind MH370 or other events is quite simply unproductive and delusional and serves no useful purpose. People need to loosen up and understand that occasionally, we all have to traverse rough patches in history, but you have to place your trust in the globalists who have a steady hand on the tiller. Globalism is the wave of the future for humanity. The globalists know what is best for humanity, and they have the resources and intellect to make it happen. Just consider the wonderful work that has been done in Europe by Von Rumpey who is a globalist representative. Democracy as a governmental system has been rendered obsolete in a world as developed and sophisticated as we now are. It has become too complex for the average citizen to understand and intelligent voting is an oxymoron. As Churchill once said "if you want to know what is wrong with democracy, have a 5 minute conversation with the average voter.










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posted on May, 4 2014 @ 08:01 PM
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a reply to: cayrichard

Actually the Rolls Royce service was subscribed to. The Aircraft Health Management System wasn't, but ACARS and the EHMS were.


The carrier does have a data-sharing agreement with engine maker Rolls-Royce Holdings Plc (RR/) for its wide-body fleet. New Scientist magazine reported, without saying where it got the information, that the missing 777 sent two bursts of data before contact was lost.

“We continue to monitor the situation and provide our full support to Malaysia Airlines,” said Richard Hedges, a spokesman for London-based Rolls-Royce. He declined to elaborate.

www.bloomberg.com...
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posted on May, 5 2014 @ 08:33 AM
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a reply to: nighthawk1954

March, 2014: Four Star (Ret.) General Thomas McInerney - U.S. Air Force, indicated that he has sources that have confirmed that Flight MH370 was hijacked and landed in Pakistan, and that both pilots appear to have been complicit in the hijacking.

At video mark 2:16, when Mr. Hannity asks about the General's "sources" , General McInerney appears quite evasive and does not want to be pressed any further by Mr. Hannity when discussing said sources.

At video mark 7:24, Mr. Hannity suggests in his question that "there is a very good possibility that the United States knows much more than what it is saying". General McInerney agrees, and continues by indicating that "the best leaks have come out of the U.S. Government".




posted on May, 5 2014 @ 02:02 PM
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Seriously, nobody has a clue where that plane is. Not the US, not China, not Australia and definitely not Malayasia.

It's most likely at the bottom of the Indian Ocean fully intact but again who knows? It's just speculation with a very high probability. Modern aircrafts like the 777's have extended glide capabilities and probably pretty extensive emergency glide procedures programmed into the autopilot. With a still working George there was a high chance it was a controlled glide path causing very little damage to the plane on touchdown. But I still believe that nobody was alive at that point... kind of weird, too - a true Ghost plane.

In recent years they were more than 10 cases from A320's all the way to 747's who had complete engine failures and had to glide for a long time. Most of them landed safely with minimal to no damage.

I think anything else is really wishful thinking.



posted on May, 5 2014 @ 02:33 PM
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a reply to: cayrichard

End of story? So glad you set the record straight for us all and we can finally close this case.



posted on May, 5 2014 @ 02:52 PM
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originally posted by: flyandi--->Modern aircrafts like the 777's have extended glide capabilities and probably pretty extensive emergency glide procedures programmed into the autopilot.


If both engines flame out due to fuel starvation automation wont matter because it will disconnect.

Even with two alive and well pilots ditching out at the open sea have a very narrow chanse for a happy outcome.

With unconscious or dead pilots the plane would not hit the water in a survivable way.



posted on May, 5 2014 @ 04:36 PM
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originally posted by: Ivar_Karlsen

originally posted by: flyandi--->Modern aircrafts like the 777's have extended glide capabilities and probably pretty extensive emergency glide procedures programmed into the autopilot.


If both engines flame out due to fuel starvation automation wont matter because it will disconnect.

Even with two alive and well pilots ditching out at the open sea have a very narrow chanse for a happy outcome.

With unconscious or dead pilots the plane would not hit the water in a survivable way.


The Batteries will still be full at that time and the RAT probably deployed shortly before the engines actual turned off. It's not like an airplane can't fly without engines.

here is a list of famous gliding cases:

en.wikipedia.org...



posted on May, 5 2014 @ 04:48 PM
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originally posted by: STANDARD
I will say it again, the plane was shot down by military jets.


After reading this I'm going to throw out a scenario. I have no facts no proof or evidence to back this up I do not intend to cause any harm in anyway by saying this. If you think my scenario is wrong please don't burn me just point me out where I've gone wrong.

Plane takes off, fire in cock out causes electric to fail so transponder go off. Fire causes a decompression somewhere knocks out the crew and passengers. While this happens the pilot is attempting to turn back prior to being knocked out.
Plane survives and carries on flying toward Diego Garcia . They attempt communication but have no response and seeing as it as a threat shoot it down.

While everyone is searching in the wrong location Diego Garcias lot tidy up the wreckage. Anyone remember that aircraft part washing up in the Maldives. Not that far away

I dunno what you think

*braces himself for an ats make over*
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posted on May, 5 2014 @ 04:52 PM
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originally posted by: flyandi

originally posted by: Ivar_Karlsen

originally posted by: flyandi--->Modern aircrafts like the 777's have extended glide capabilities and probably pretty extensive emergency glide procedures programmed into the autopilot.


If both engines flame out due to fuel starvation automation wont matter because it will disconnect.

Even with two alive and well pilots ditching out at the open sea have a very narrow chanse for a happy outcome.

With unconscious or dead pilots the plane would not hit the water in a survivable way.


The Batteries will still be full at that time and the RAT probably deployed shortly before the engines actual turned off. It's not like an airplane can't fly without engines.

here is a list of famous gliding cases:

en.wikipedia.org...



The batteries/rat can only power the flight control computers and other essential equipment, not the flight management system, flight director, autothrottle and autopilot, for that you'll need at least one of the 4 engine driven generators or the APU.

So without fuel you're down to handflying on raw data.



posted on May, 5 2014 @ 05:13 PM
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There is so much ineptitude in this while search it's unreal.

They say all the evidence points to the plane being In the southern Indian Ocean after running out of fuel by all, What they really mean is one peice, and it's not even evidence, it's a simulation, that's all, pings from a Satelite dictated how long the the plane communicated for, not the direction it was travelling. If it could track the direction we would of found something by now.

The actual real but of evidence suggests one thing.. he plane flew west, NOT south, at no point does any bit of evidence suggest the plane then turned again and headed south .

If the plane did crash in the southern Indian Ocean then it must of landed intact or else wreckage would be visible, see airfrance for full details

Just want to raise a few points and a few questions here:
why has nothing been found yet?
how does a plane land on the sea after running out of fuel and remain intact?
Which person has been playing clever buggers with a blackbox in the exact search area? that area was passed time and time again before the pings were located, why was it only found with a few days battery life left?
why say the pings were consistant as coming from a blackbox then are now not able to find anything?

My true feelings on this are one of either Military Operation/terrorism. The Cargo onboard the plane seems to be a huge secret, it's been confirmed of carrying things that shouldn't been on, missing things that should of been on, Now I'm not saying the the shipments were loaded with explosives, what I actually think is, if it were terrorism/military, then The shipment was loaded with people (and no they wouldn't of froze to death because they wouldn't of went in bare ass, they would of been padded up in foil suits and an oxygen cannister),If you have access to the cargo bay, you have direct access to the cabling of the plane, you can cut the acars, cut transponder, perhaps just before this, the outgoing communications were cut also without the pilot realising.A very thought out methodical person could achieve this, at the end of the day, it take 4 years to study a degree in aircraft maintenance,

People will think all of this seems Rediculous, but why is it anything more Rediculous than what we are all being told already.

One more thing to consider. In the UK. EVERYDAY MI6 and police manage to retrieve pornographic images from badly burned and formatted hard drives of everyday people in order to obtain convictions.

however just yesterday the Malasian government claimed it has only been able to retrieve a tiny portion of the deleted information from the pilots pc. who exactly is doing this retrieval? Last time I knew it was the FBI... What tools are they using? wetting therefinger and sticking it in the air? Come on. It's Microsoft Flight Simulator on a run of the mill PC. It's not exactly trying to hack into a bank or IRAN or CHINA ... which I might add the USA has already managed to successfully do this.

for the sake of the families I wish they could just find the plane so the relatives can grieve instead of all this political bull#



posted on May, 5 2014 @ 07:11 PM
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Well after all that, and one very long strange post, the final...no latest word, is that the whole sheebang of experts from all over, are meeting up in Malaysia or Australia this week to start all over again with the original raw material.



posted on May, 5 2014 @ 07:18 PM
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IMO, the plane didn't crash in the ocean, or anyplace else. Too many communications active/passive communications systems. It landed somewhere, and someone besides those onboard knows EXACTLY WHERE.
-cwm



posted on May, 5 2014 @ 07:25 PM
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originally posted by: Ektar
a reply to: smurfy

I am curious to know if you are signed to a major
record label or film company & during your "assigned time"
you write new songs who owns them, you or them?

I am not not being funny, I have been there to some extent...
Patent Laws & Music Laws are a mess. Thank you for your time.

Cheers
Ektar


Send me a u2u to remind me, but for a quick example look up the Dave Clark five, Dave Clark practically wrote Zilch, but is credited as composer.



posted on May, 5 2014 @ 07:40 PM
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originally posted by: cayrichard
Conspiracy theorists won't buy this, stating that the lower bodies were photoshopped on a picture of the two standing together. If this were true it would suggest some ridiculous scenario, implicating the US or Israel ; truly ludicrous.



Oh dear! and includes too the lower part of the bag.


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