originally posted by: WhiteAlice
a reply to: BO XIAN
Case study? I have a friend with RAD and it's a subject he and I have talked about at length. We're two sides of the abused as children coin--I'm
dissociative. He has RAD. I could try to write up a case study, I suppose, but I think that would get awkward.
No need of that. I thought you were asserting that some of the shooters did not have RAD. I was asking for links to their case studies. I'm very
skeptical that ANY of the shooters were free of significant RAD.
I'm not saying either that these kids had an ideal home life. In fact, my family looked like the perfect family from the outside but it was totally
SNAFU behind closed doors. Again though, I'm not saying that these kids had ideal home lives. In fact, I mentioned Scott Pennington and the abuse he
endured at home as being a possible case of RAD. Please don't misrepresent my statements.
Certainly didn't mean to misrepresent or misinterpret your statements. Thanks for that clarification.
Simply looking at home for causation is, however, looking only at half the picture. Kids, especially when they reach school age, tend to spend most
of their day at school. Can't rule that out, especially when looking at the issue historically. Historically, kids have suffered from a variety of
abuses since the dawn of time. Historically, kids shooting each other in schools were one kid shooting another kid because of a disagreement. That
changed in the 70's to produce rampage killers. Why?
Excellent point and question. I'm skeptical that a conclusive answer will be available until the close of this era. There are some hints and
1. Lawlessness increased dramatically. Some say when we went into Iraq--that a hoard of very dark evil forces were loosed on the planet from that
2. The Oligarchy has been winding things up incrementally for at least 60 years. I think the 70's crossed a line of escalation that bore more overt
fruit in more dramatic ways. They REALLY ARE 'into' mayhem, violence, murder, mass murder, fear mongering, chaos etc. . . . as a tool, as a hobby, as
a passion, as a goal--an intermediate goal--a means to their tyrannical ends.
3. Anger and violence were escalated in a list of ways:
(A) movies & TV
(B) video games
(D) news focus [witness the Charles Manson/Sharon Tate murders etc]
(E) social commentary
(G) arts [particularly music but also plays, TV, movies]
(H) memes, symbols, themes, etc. all GLORIFIED VIOLENCE, DEATH, MAYHEM, MURDER, TORTURE, SNUFF FILMS . . .
It is as though 'someone' flipped a series of major switches and THE WHOLE CULTURE WAS SHOVED WHOLESALE
MULTIDIMENSIONALLLY INTO THE DEATH STAR GARBAGE CHUTE OF THE LORD OF THE FLIES.
If abuse in the home has been ever present within society, then something else had to change. It's not medicines either because the first few weren't
on medications at all.
That's an interesting issue. I think the abuse in the home took on a qualitative change somehow. Oh, I don't know that individual cases per se were
always greatly different from earlier eras . . . I think the percentages changed.
I think the percentages changed in
(A) the amount per capita and
(B) the seriousness of the abuse WITHOUT compensating evidence of parental caring
And I think THOSE changes AGAINST THE BACKDROP of the "flipped switches" etc. mentioned above made a huge difference.
Thanks for the interesting dialogue.
In terms of the meds issue . . . here's an interesting ATS thread on that topic:
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