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originally posted by: gladtobehere
This is an actual picture of the cop celebrating after he took the money.
I-Team: Lawsuit filed over freeway cash seizures.
I-Team: I-80 cash seizures by sheriff's office raises questions.
- Nguyen: "I mean, you have no right to take this money."
- Deputy Dove: "Yes, I do."
- Nguyen: "I haven't done anything."
- Deputy Dove: "Yes, you have. I believe you have. I believe you have, ok."
When the driver asks about the illegal search and seizure, the cop goes on to say:
- Deputy Dove: "Well, I'm gonna search that vehicle first, ok?"
- Nguyen: "Hey, what's the reason you're searching my car?"
- Deputy Dove: "Because I'm talking to you... well, no, I don't have to explain that to you. I'm not going to explain that to you, but I am gonna put my drug dog on that (pointing to money). If my dog alerts, I'm seizing the money. You can try to get it back but you're not."
- Nguyen: (inaudible) got it in Vegas."
- Deputy Dove: "Good luck proving it. Good luck proving it. You'll burn it up in attorney fees before we give it back to you."
So they count on the fact that they can steal YOUR money and that you'll be too poor to get it back...
War on drugs + asset forfeiture laws = RIP 4th Amendment.
There is no more protection under the 4th Amendment. ZERO, NONE.
Whether its this kind of insanity or the warrant-less spying, the TSA, the NSA, the SWAT teams etc., they do whatever they want.
Whether its a politician (Republican and Democrat) or a judge, they all take an oath to uphold the Constitution. So how is this allowed?
If their interpretation of the 4th Amendment is so incredibly narrow, then we need to enact specific laws outlawing this insanity.
This has to stop. Enough already.
originally posted by: Daedalus
originally posted by: Aazadan
During a stop (or any encounter with the police) you have no right to refuse the officers request. If they say do it, you are legally obligated to do it. To disobey is to commit an actual crime. If you believe the cops overstepped their bounds in the moment, your recourse is to take it to court after the fact. Then you can listen to the court side with the cops, unless you were directly injured as a result of the cops instructions.
you have some real funny ideas about things....if it's not a direction you can refuse, then it's not a request.
and i'm not entirely sure where you get this idea that you can't refuse, or that a person has no rights, simply because they're interacting with a police officer.
the uniform, and badge are nothing more than symbols of that person having taken on the task of enforcing the law. it does not elevate them to some "superuser" status.. unless you are violating the law, a police officer is an equal citizen...it's only when you commit a crime, that they have any legal authority to take action against you.
originally posted by: olaru12
I wonder why all the ATS LEO mods don't respond to these reports anymore.