a reply to: KyoZero
I love this question because it is one too that has captured my mind when I was young, and I loved to explorer it. Scientists obviously have come up
with some incredible theories, but they are all just mere conjecture and fantasy. They like to claim those who believe in God believe in fairy-tales,
but really those who come up with their fanciful flights of imagination are actually doing exactly what they claim believers of.
That is not to bash anyone either. Just to state a form of irony I see.
Our universe, KyroZero, is finite. As was mentioned earlier in this thread the first law of thermodynamics states that nothing can be created or
destroyed. That is everything within our fixed universe whether matter or energy can only change states of existence.
And Einstein showed us with a marvelous equation that matter itself is stored energy. That is E=MC^2. That is mass, even a small portion of it
contains a tremendous amount of energy.
Now the second law of thermodynamics is worth mentioning here, because it states that if things are left on their own in a fixed or isolated system
tends to an order of decay or disorder.
Now the universe came from a certain event in the distant past, scientists claim to have pinpointed it to be around 13.8 billion years ago. Whether
that is true, or will be changed with more study, probably matters little. The fact is, a long, long, long time ago a huge amount of energy formed
our universe and all of the laws that regulate it. The four principle being: (1) Gravity, (2) Electromagnetism (electricity and magnetism are the
same thing, only different sides of the wavelength), (3) The strong nuclear force (this holds sub-atomic particles together, it is an extremely strong
force, the greatest in the universe, yet the one with the least range, its effects are not felt outside the nucleolus), and (4) the weak nuclear
force. The last one is what bonds the atom together, it is millions of times weaker than the strong nuclear force, .
How is it that the universe from happenstance came to be with very precise and finely tuned laws? And it is incredible how finely tuned these laws
are. Some of the forces are so exact, so finely tuned, to up to 120 decimal places! Just a little bit off the universe would have burned out already
or would never had started to begin with.
The charges of an electron, for example in proportion to a proton* (sorry spell check made that protein) must be equal (and opposite obviously). A
neutron must weigh more than the proton by a small amount. There must be a matching in the temperature of our sun, and the properties in chlorophyll
before photosynthesis happens. If the strong nuclear force were just an extremely extremely small fraction weaker the sun would never have been able
to generate energy by means of nuclear reactions. Yet a tiny hair of a fraction more, fuel needed to generate it would be unstable, and without the
two remarkable resonances within red giants nothing beyond helium could have been created. (All elements heavier than helium are formed within the
cosmic furnaces of dying super giants.)
We could go on and on and on. We could even look down to the DNA molecule and see how wonderful it is. The chances that DNA RNA and proteins needed
to create life are more than 1 in a billion billion billion. That is, if you were to take some primordial soup, not the size of our earth, but the
size of our universe, it would take much longer than the life of our universe (a mere 13 billion years) for them to have arisen exactly as needed.
Again atheists like to look down their noses with arrogant disdain at a believer and call God a fairy-tale. Yet really, what they believe in, when
you really get down to the crux of the matter is much more fanciful.
Now get to our questions, there are answers. If you will accept them or no, is up to you. But I will share them with you.
The Bible states that in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Obviously this is not talking about his beginning but the beginning of
our universe. So we know God is not from our universe. For it came from him, and he existed before it came into being. Now I know some will raise
the objection that the creation account in Genesis cannot be accurate because it says God created heaven and earth in 6 literal days. But that is NOT
what it says.
It merely states: "In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth." - Genesis 1:1. It really doesn't state when it happened. So it does
not disagree with science at all. In fact that statement has been proven. Because of the red-shifting in the stars our universe has proven to be
expanding away from a place or origin. I will not go into it now here, because it would take up too much space, but the six creative days were God's
preparing the earth for human habitation. The universe and everything in it had already long been in existence. Rather it is given from the
perspective from someone on earth. For example when God said: "Let their be light," he is not talking about creating the universe which already
existed. Rather he is referring to the fact that the atmosphere of our earth at that stage was so thick that no sunlight penetrated to the earth's
surface. At that time the atmosphere was cleared up enough so that some sunlight did penetrate to the surface.
Also if you follow the Genesis account of how life arrived, in the successive creative days (not literal), it is in accord with scientific fact.
First vegetation (which by means of photosynthesis made the earth's atmosphere an oxygen rich environment, and at the same time no doubt helped clear
the atmosphere even more up to the point where the luminaries became visible in the night sky, the sun and the moon and the stars. Next he created
sea life, and birds, and then land animals, and finally humans. The fossil record shows that how Genesis states life came to be is accurate. There
is no doubt about it accuracy.
Now God is eternal. And he is the source of all energy. He does not live or exist in our physical plan, or in our universe. He cannot since he is
far grander than our universe. In fact scripture states:
(2 Chronicles 2:6) . . .And who could retain power to build him a house? For the heavens and the heaven of the heavens cannot contain
him. . .
That is the universe itself cannot contain God.
Now our sun in* the Milky Way is one but of many billions, a hundred billion it is said. And it is merely one of but perhaps trillions of galaxies,
at least hundreds of billions of others in the universe. The Bible states:
(Isaiah 40:26) . . .“Raise YOUR eyes high up and see. Who has created these things? It is the One who is bringing forth the army of them even by
number, all of whom he calls even by name. Due to the abundance of dynamic energy, he also being vigorous in power, not one [of them] is missing.
Yes, God can name every single star in our universe. That statement boggles the mind. Yet, notice here it states that they came to be because of
God's abundance of "dynamic energy."
The energy God has at his disposal is supernatural, in that it is of a far greater energy than we know to exist in our universe. By means of that
energy at his disposal he created the physical heavens in which we reside. ....ran out of room...hold on....cont..
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