Is there a difference between Black and White Racism?

a reply to: Mizzijr
I agree, the whites their anger should truly be directed at are the 0.01 percent. They are the ones making a profit off of black poverty. Actually poverty in general.

As a truth there is no difference between racisms coming from one race or another, but in practice there is. One has to admit that in modern American society racism is thought of mainly as white vs black. That is just the way it is. Much of this is likely due to slavery, and it is no secret that even after emancipation many people treated blacks as being unequal. Things went on this way until the Civil Rights Movement.

Eventually all men were given equal rights, and that is where we stand today. Society as a whole does not think one race is less equal than another. There are some individuals who think this, but they are the minority. What gets under my skin is the fact that there are actually organized groups who, through their statements and actions, perpetuate racism and further divisions, because they go around looking for anything that can be construed as whites being racist towards blacks.

There is no similar white group, or mexican group, or any other group that does this, because these other groups would not stand for it. For some reason it is okay for them, but not okay if another race does it. This is why such groups should not exist at all, because they just further divide society, which is the opposite of what they claim to be doing.

Another reason such groups should not exist is because equality has been achieved legally. Any instance of racism is due to someone's personal leanings. Well if that is the case, then there are bound to be just as many black racists as white, and there are bound to be issues of discrimination that go both ways. But we only hear about one side, because white people are too afraid of being branded "racist" that they just keep their mouths shut.

I am just calling it like I see it by the way. Everyone knows this is the truth. And just like the majority of white people do not think ill of blacks, many black people do not think ill of whites. But those who are racist exist on BOTH sides. Yet it is obvious that American society only publicizes one side of the coin. We know that racist groups like the KKK say they are speaking for white individuals, but that is not who I want representing me, because I am not racist. I do not believe that any race is better than any other race. Scientific evidence suggests that race is simply a social or cultural construct, as all humans belong to the same species.

So I just think that, to be equal, there either should be a group that also looks for racism perpetuated against other races, or these groups should not exist at all. What is fair about claiming that everyone is equal, yet having something like affirmative action, or something else that purposefully places importance on race alone? A person's character should be judged by their actions and internal qualities, not by the color of their skin.

They're all equally bad except in the eyes of the law & the media.

They are all out there in the world but certain ones are highlighted to stir people up.

Is there a difference? Between black and white, between Asian and black, between white and Latino? Who cares. What does it really matter?

Racism of any sort only thrives and has power because we, particularly the media, keep talking about it. All of us. Even good intentions cause worse consequences when it comes to this "thing."

Just set a good example for your children, laugh at all the racists, and move on. Eventually they'll get that it isn't the way.

Black people and other minorities get away with a lot of racism. It's sad that so many think it's acceptable to # on white people in 2014.


I also really do not like hearing all the horrific stories of rapes and gang beatings against white people. Makes me sick because there are inhuman people out there that think those innocent white people deserved it.

originally posted by: Mizzijr
I'm mixed with black and I hear some black people say all the time, "I hate white people." I sometimes ask them why, they'll say something along the lines of,

"They are just... snakes. They can't be trusted. Look at how they treat people black people like we are beneath them. Then the history, their entire history is nothing but stealing and killing people. They are deceivers. They will laugh in your face and stab you in the back."

Stuff like that.

They are right. But most races have a similar history. And most people, by nature shouldn't be trusted.

There is another facet you should look at though.

The Judicial system is racist. Actually, the entire system is racist. CIA has been pushing drugs into black communities and they know it. They see the difference in judicial judgement. They see the difference in the quality of education that is offered. They see the difference in finances. They also see the differences in welfare. They see it. They see it all.

Then black males are all over the news nothing but crime. All in prison making the system money over the drugs that were put there by the people that put them in jail. Then the media is a bunch of crap too, poisonous rap music allowed to be played infecting the minds of the young. For what? Money. That's what. It's disgusting actually.

There is a conspiracy to eliminate black people or put them back in chains. But not by the average white man. That's where the confusion come in at. Black people are not really mad at white people in general, they are mad with the system created by white people and they are lashing out at the general white people around them and the stereotypes that are portrayed by them.

The system needs to be changed. Then the minds can be changed. Racism can be changed.

Seriously.

Black people weren’t forced to sell or buy those drugs. They sold their souls for the money. White communities were targeted for profit as well. The government wants people to be sedated.


There is a conspiracy to put everyone in chains. The evil we can’t see only cares about souls.

Black people need to stop lashing out at the average white person.

a reply to: ~Lucidity

If we all just bury our heads and let the people who do discriminate do what they want. Racism will end... Yea right.

originally posted by: ArtemisE
a reply to: ~Lucidity

If we all just bury our heads and let the people who do discriminate do what they want. Racism will end... Yea right.

Think about it a little harder.

Even though they are both wrong, the racism from black to white is a lot more understandable than from white to black.

The black discriminate against whites because they have been wronged in the past in very serious ways, and they 'know' they can not trust whites as a group.
The racism from whites to black is simply arrogance and ego since it's generally a feeling of superiority to blacks.

originally posted by: vasaga
Even though they are both wrong, the racism from black to white is a lot more understandable than from white to black.

The black discriminate against whites because they have been wronged in the past in very serious ways, and they 'know' they can not trust whites as a group.
The racism from whites to black is simply arrogance and ego since it's generally a feeling of superiority to blacks.

Racism from black to white is most certainly NOT a lot more understandable. The amount of physical violence towards white people is disgusting.

Black people today especially young black people haven’t been wronged the same way their ancestors were. They are using history as justification for their brutality in what many like to think is modern and civilized society. White people today had nothing to do with the past. It’s hilarious to think that white people can’t be trusted as a group. Fear and ignorance prevails.

Even just mean mugging every white person you see is very damaging.

White people think they’re better than other white people. Everyone is on the look out for white racists. If a white person that’s not racist thinks he’s better looking or just better and smarter than a black person, it’s seen as racist. White people shouldn’t have to tip toe around black people.

a reply to: JustACoincidence

If you're actually saying that black people are no longer under the effects of history, you're simply wrong. Even after slavery was abolished, the black people needed to start from scratch. They were always left at a disadvantage. Since then they started off poor. Unlike the white, they couldn't afford the same schools, they needed to do crappier jobs, and other social circumstances dictate that long after that generation. The effects are still seen today. There are a lot more poor blacks than whites. Not because whites are smarter, but because blacks didn't start in the same place as whites.

Yeah. You're right that modern white people highly likely didn't have anything to do with what happened. But how many of them are actually standing up in support of blacks? People need to stop with this black/white crap and unite to overthrow parasitic governments that simply use divide and conquer.

a reply to: calstorm

There's more to race than skin color. Deal with it.

We're not all the same, that's what makes us all great. We need different races, it's what makes us human. Our diversity is what ties us.

As for racism, of course it's equally bad on both ends of the spectrum. Remember, no one alive today owned slaves. Blacks in Africa owned (and still own) slaves. Is it OK for us to hate them?

Every race and culture in history have owned slaves in one point or another. The white race isn't unique.

I'm born and breed in the deep south and have lived all over the Southeast..... I've spent a lot of my years in forms of "trailer parks", some fit that category. Others were far above what most think of as a trailer park (my parents managed said communities and we were not allowed to call them trailer parks, but mobile home communities, then modular home communities).

Anyway, I have been around whites, blacks, Latino, Asian, Indian and Middle Eastern people in these communities, and other places. The only act I saw first hand invovled a young black man (named Michael, around 16-18) that got into a physical altercation with a young white man. When this white man became aggressive with my white mother, while my white siblings and I were swimming in the pool, Michael stepped in to stop it. He ended up slightly hurt, but it made a huge impression on my young mind, and my siblings, being only about 5 at the time.

Michael didn't see race, he saw these people, these kids who looked up to him and that we were potentially in harms way. I don't know what happened to him, but we often wanted to try to find out.

Sorry, got to rambling. But thank you OP, I hadn't thought about Michael in YEARS, and it is a wonderful memory.

originally posted by: calstorm
here in the United states I see a lot of Hispanic vs. Black racism.

When I lived in Japan the Asian folks hated all the other Asian folks ... Japanese, Chinese, Korean, Vietnamese, etc ... they all hated each other but they REALLY hated the Koreans. I dont know why the Koreans were looked down on so much, but they were the one group that all the other Asians just turned their noses at. I never could get a straight answer as to why ...

Ahhhhhhhhh more excuses for "blacks can say this". "Al sharpton". "If a black person had said it"...."Derp Derp Derp".....

Very often white "racism" is not really racism. It's discrimination based on facts (Like black crime rate). But, most white people won't hate a decent black individual just because he's black.

Is there a fundamental difference between black and whit racists in America?

Im in the UK but Im going to share my opinion anyway

Is one worse or is any and all racism equal?

I think it should be equal but in the UK it isnt some examples
Black man says he is proud of his skin colour = fair play, well done that man
White man says he is proud of his skin colour= obviously your a racist
Black man wants to start an organisation to help his fellow blacks (association of black police officers, association of black lawyers, Black engineers, black social workers, black only community centers the list is endless) BME
White man wants to set up an organisation to help his fellow whites = sorry that would be deemed as a racist organisation
Black man says he only wants to breed within his own race = hey thats up to him
White man says he wants to breed within his own race = is that because your a racist
I could go on but I think you get the Idea

White racist believe that they are superior to the other races and god has gifted the world to them for rule.

This to me sounds like White Supremacy although these types are racists, not all white people who are proud of there race want to dominate the world (a common misconception Hitler who was an obvious racist or racialist wasnt a white supremacist, Mein Kampf clearly states National socialism was not designed fo export)

There is another race of people who quite openly claim to be superior to all others, but I will leave you to work that one out

Segregationists believe the races should remain as pure as possible, but I guess all are equal. Just don't think we should mix.

Personally I dont agree with Miscegenation, but I think it is a personal choice, you shouldnt hate people just because of who they have fallen in love with, I wouldnt say all races are equal, but as for one race being better than another, I would ask better at what ? I thought about this during the olympics on the whole blacks are far better sprinters, but I have never seen a black swimmer get a medal, I have read somewhere it has something to do with the way our muscles work but it was a while ago now and again we could discuss this all night

Black racists believe there's some conspiracy by the white race to keep them down and put them back in chains

Many people abused slaves and many looked after them well. In the UK many people forget what we did before we had black slaves, we had workhouses for orphaned and unwanted children we would do things like send them up chimneys and if they died then they where easily replaced, work houses weren't very nice places, those poor forgoten white children, who never get a mention in modern education

Now I think most would agree all 3 are flawed logic. But is one more evil then the others?

I think you need to take into account the intention, motivation and circumstances before you can make judgment on their logic, if everyone in your neighbourhood was starving would you feed your kids first or the kids over the road, if you fed your kids first would that make you a neighbourist

I personally am an evolution guy. So the more we mix the stronger the species. ( whites don't get scicalcell, blacks don't get skin cancer)

If everyone mixed we would all end up as mocha coloured people effectivley blending white people out of exhistance, this Im afraid is genocide which is illegal under international law, the fact that 3rd world countries are intentionally being kept as third world countries, and all white countries are being flooded with people from these third world countries (who you cant blame for wanting a better life) because of open door imigration polices then this evolution you speak of is more like forced evolution, not a good thing in my opinion

IMHO white racism is the most evil, in its present incarnation at least. There's nothing inherently worse. Just as it's presently practiced it's the worst

Here in the UK the word racist gets thrown around so much it has almost lost its meaning, you moan about imigration, your a racist, you tell the wrong joke your a racist, you call a black man a black man when its deemed as politically incorrect ( I think its person of colour now ) guess what your a racist, beat the sh1t out of some one because of their colour of skin your a racist, burn someones house down because of their skin colour your a racist, kill someone because of their skin colour your a racist its crazy
Personally I consider myself a pro white what that means is I am proud of my skin colour and all the things my race has achieved, although I know a few non whites I prefer the company of other whites,I find white women more attractive than none white women, if I had to I would put other whites before non whites but this does not mean I subscribe to hate, if you think that makes me a racist, then so be it.

a reply to: mkpetrov

I agree completely with your statement. Except I think political leaders have fabricated and played up the stereo types that lead to the discrimination racism.


Really that's what's killed racism so far in America. It's easy to believe garbage about a people when you have never met one. Once jimmy Hendrix and Jackie robinson were the heros for a whole generation. That kinda blew up the they are inferior bs.

a reply to: dam00

Make no mistake, and I think most people would agree, you have some very racist views.



So you think it was better to send black children up the chimney then white children? The reason they used children was there size.... So were not swapping adults for children.... Were swapping white children for black children....



No we wouldn't be breeding out the white race. We would be mixing all races. The other races would be losing purity as well. It's only the " one drop of black blood makes you black" policies of segregationists and pro slavery people.



If everyone in my nieghborhood was starving of course I'm feeding my children first. But I'm not feeding all the white people first. I'm starting with my family, then friends then the children of the area. Race would have zero to do with my distribution.


I appriciate your participation in the thread. But you have to be close to the most racist person I've encountered on ATS. Your kind of thinking is destructive. Hopefully you don't raise your children to think the way you do. Hopefully your beliefs die with you.

originally posted by: dam00

If everyone mixed we would all end up as mocha coloured people effectivley blending white people out of exhistance, this Im afraid is genocide which is illegal under international law, the fact that 3rd world countries are intentionally being kept as third world countries, and all white countries are being flooded with people from these third world countries (who you cant blame for wanting a better life) because of open door imigration polices then this evolution you speak of is more like forced evolution, not a good thing in my opinion

If everyone mixed and we would all end up mocha, white people would disappear, yes......along with black people, Oriental people.....etc. The 'genocide' you mentioned would happen for all ethnicities, not just caucasians. It works both ways.

I love my race too.......the human race, the only race on this tiny planet.