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My Buddy On Fox News Talking About Latest Land Grab In Texas

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posted on Apr, 29 2014 @ 09:06 PM
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On tonight’s Judge Jeanine, Texas Rancher Layne Chapman lays out the details of another federal land grab. This time, the details are much worse than in the case of Cliven Bundy, as the land is not leased, and no money is owed. According to Chapman, the land is privately owned, and has been for generations. He also asserts that all taxes have been paid every year of ownership.


My good friend Layne Chapman gives his take on the Feds latest land grab.

I must say I'm very proud of him in the responses he gave. This nonsense has to stop.

Here is the link to watch my friend's interview about how his family's land is being threatened by the government.
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posted on Apr, 29 2014 @ 09:32 PM
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The rule of law has guided this nation and placed restrictions on the population and the government from harmful actions by either party . When a government can change the laws to fit a circumstance or agenda to it's own benefit then regardless of what is said the rule of law no longer exist. Let us hope some court gets to the bottom of this mess and by law makes a proper ruling based upon his title and paying taxes on the property.. I think the ranchers will win this one and if not, then no one is safe as far as owning property some government entity wants..
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posted on Apr, 29 2014 @ 09:36 PM
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If she is talking about the case I think she is talking about which is Currington vs Henderson It ruled that the land next to the Red River does belong to the government. Actually it belongs to Native Americans and the government is acting as trustees and has been in their possession since the early 1800's. If this mans family has been paying taxes on this land then the money should be returned to him. Here is link for anyone that wants to read the case.

Currington v. Henderson 1986



posted on Apr, 29 2014 @ 09:48 PM
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That's interesting. I obviously grew up with this man along the red river, and the land here has been held by the same families for many years.

A fed land grab here is just unthinkable to us.


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posted on Apr, 29 2014 @ 10:01 PM
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originally posted by: solongandgoodnight
a reply to: buster2010
That's interesting. I obviously grew up with this man along the red river, and the land here has been held by the same families for many years.

A fed land grab here is just unthinkable to us.



People have a bad habit of assuming something belongs to them when it really doesn't. More than likely his family owns the land up to a certain point then it becomes government land.



posted on Apr, 29 2014 @ 10:05 PM
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a reply to: buster2010

It would be easy to assume if you have to pay taxes on it.



posted on Apr, 29 2014 @ 10:20 PM
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originally posted by: buster2010

originally posted by: solongandgoodnight
a reply to: buster2010
That's interesting. I obviously grew up with this man along the red river, and the land here has been held by the same families for many years.

A fed land grab here is just unthinkable to us.



People have a bad habit of assuming something belongs to them when it really doesn't. More than likely his family owns the land up to a certain point then it becomes government land.


I agree with solong.



posted on Apr, 29 2014 @ 10:54 PM
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aren't they, (blm) using the natural drift of the river as a yard stick/excuse?

the blm is the only one with the problem, it seems.



posted on Apr, 29 2014 @ 11:03 PM
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Texas Boy Scouts: BLM Eyeing Our Camp - WICHITA FALLS, TEXAS



land owned by the Northwest Texas Council of the Boy Scouts of America is also reportedly being targeted by the BLM land management study.


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Perry rips ‘out-of-control’ federal government over Texas land dispute

Lt. Governor Dewhurst Decries Potential Federal Seizure of Texas Land

Lt. Governor Dewhurst Supports Landowners at Red River

Attorney General Abbott Questions BLM’s Authority to Seize Private Property along Red River in Texas

Cruz Sends Letter to Bureau of Land Management

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Personally speaking ...

Everything I own is within the borders of Texas. If any inch of Texas is threatened ... I'm threatened.

To Summarize: Red River, ALL Red River ... I WILL assume that you have friends.



posted on Apr, 29 2014 @ 11:26 PM
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Even Fox news is reporting it as a GOP beatup -


BLM said it is merely in the “initial stages of developing options for management of public lands,” as part of a “transparent process with several opportunities for public input.”

BLM Field Manager Stephen Tryon, in a March 17 letter to Thornberry, said officials would eventually look to “ascertain the boundary” between federal and private land and acknowledged residents’ concerns that new surveys could “create cloud to their private property title.”

But he said no new surveys are currently planned, and reiterated that there are no federal claims to Texas land “as defined by multiple rulings of the U.S. Supreme Court.”



posted on Apr, 29 2014 @ 11:35 PM
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a reply to: Aloysius the Gaul

I've read several news articles with VARYING BLM REPLYS relating to Texas ... ( i.e. seems like their replys aren't consistant or always changing )

Because of this, it becomes difficult to believe anything coming out of the BLM.

HOWEVER

These varying stories do seem to indicate that the BLM is BACK-PEDDLING ... BUT ... for HOW LONG ???

I believe ... Regardless, Texas won't be letting its guard down anytime soon.

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Summary: My Two Cent Contribution.
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posted on Apr, 30 2014 @ 06:34 AM
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If this turns out that that the Feds get the land, then everyone who thinks they own land better think again.

It will only be yours until the government decides it isn't.



posted on Apr, 30 2014 @ 06:50 AM
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... or perhaps sometimes "good people" can be confused about what is going on, and over react?

... and maybe, just maybe, there are politicians in Texas too who want to jump on a bandwagon in an election year?


Houston Chronicle, 4/30/2014, "Red River Spat"


An escalating land management spat between Texas landowners and the federal government has spilled over into the state political arena, as one lawmaker criticized statewide elected officials for what he said was their johnny-come-lately interest in the issue for the benefit of getting good press.

The issue centers around a multi-year review the U.S. Bureau of Land Management is planning to undertake along a 116-mile stretch of the Red River, which marks the natural boundary between Texas and Oklahoma. The BLM states up to 90,000 acres area around the river is and has always been in the public domain. Local landowners – and an increasing numbers of local politicians – call the review a land grab, with Attorney General Greg Abbott even warning the federal agency to “Come and take it!”


Houston Chronicle, 4/24/2014, BLM Proves Useful for Texas Politicos


A BLM spokesman insisted the agency is not looking to take any private land, saying the tracts in question belong the federal government, as laid down in a 1923 U.S. Supreme Court ruling that defined the border between Texas and Oklahoma.

"The BLM is not, I can say categorically, not seeking to seize any privately held land along the Red River," BLM Public Affairs Specialist Paul McGuire said. "What we are trying to do is to determine how and whether these lands can be managed for the benefit of the American people."

According to the BLM, land between the middle of the river and its south gradient bank always has been in the public domain and was never private, even if citizens bought, sold or cared for it.

A 1988 court case by Red River landowner Tommy Henderson, who lost his claim over a fairly large tract of land, gives the agency solid precedent, Texas Farm Bureau spokesman Gene Hall said.


But here's the most critical part ... that Fox and all the rest are leaving out ...


The BLM's draft plan for the land will not be ready for 18 to 24 months yet, the agency said, and a final plan will not be released until 2018 at the earliest. This means Abbott can rack up a political win by criticizing the BLM's moves in the last few months of his tenure without having to take any direct action.



posted on Apr, 30 2014 @ 08:02 AM
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... or perhaps sometimes "good people" can be confused about what is going on, and over react? ... and maybe, just maybe, there are politicians in Texas too who want to jump on a bandwagon in an election year?


Well you have to remember it is Texas we are talking about where critical thinking is frowned upon. If you look at a map of the Louisiana purchase the part that is in question in Texas belongs to America.




posted on Apr, 30 2014 @ 08:27 AM
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originally posted by: buster2010
If you look at a map of the Louisiana purchase the part that is in question in Texas belongs to America.


You're truly one of the gems of the internet.



posted on Apr, 30 2014 @ 04:23 PM
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Well, that does include the Red River area at least.

And actually, probably calls out the fundamental question quite well: the US doesn't have the right to own real property or to govern that property, i.e. land, does it?



Article IV, Section 3, Item 2: 2: The Congress shall have Power to dispose of and make all needful Rules and Regulations respecting the Territory or other Property belonging to the United States; and nothing in this Constitution shall be so construed as to Prejudice any Claims of the United States, or of any particular State.


Hmm.



posted on May, 2 2014 @ 02:01 PM
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The BLM Is carrying out land grabs for Agenda 21, although in the Bundy case they appeared also to be carrying out for the benefit of Harry Reid and his family.



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