Clippers Owner Banned for Life

Coming from a league that does its very best to promote the "thug life," in every shape and form...

Coming from a league that suspended one of its very best players for a period of only two years (covering it up under the guise of retirement) for gambling on basketball games and, as a result, members of his own family threatened and his father getting killed for failing to pay the gambling debt...

Does not surprise me in the least...

originally posted by: totallackey
Coming from a league that does its very best to promote the "thug life," in every shape and form...

Coming from a league that suspended one of its very best players for a period of only two years (covering it up under the guise of retirement) for gambling on basketball games and, as a result, members of his own family threatened and his father getting killed for failing to pay the gambling debt...

Does not surprise me in the least...

Thug life? LOL Do you even watch basketball? it's a pretty fun and interesting game to play and watch. I really enjoy it. I was wondering why there were so many Lil'Wayne, NWA, Weed, Bloods and Crips, sideways held hand guns, gin and juice and gang signs and tats on every game. oh wait....there isn't! LOL Like I said, do you even watch the NBA? Valid question. Or do you think all black people are thugs? Valid Question.

However you bring up an amazing conspiracy involving Michael Jordan, Gambling, Assassination of his father, extortion, threads, Bribes, David Stern. That should be a whole other thread! with proof and links of course.

a reply to: roadgravel
People break these laws all the time when exposing others, and most of the time there is no prosecution, but the problem is , he has consented many times before and apparently had at least 80 recordings of him, she has many recordings so it is hard to say which ones he consented to and which ones he didn't because he can't remember , I do believe this will be difficult to prove even though it would be illegal if he didn't consent

a reply to: ArtemisE
There can be no criminal charges filed because California has a law against taping someone without their knowledge.

BUT!

The NBA has a behavior clause in their contracts that the owner did sign.

He is in violation of the NBA contract and can be punished accordingly.

End of story on this one, though there does seem to be an epidemic of thin skin currently affecting the western world.
(my opinion on the matter)

I guess after reading through, that I'm late for the party)

a reply to: phinubian

That's about how it will work. Mainly depends on what his attitude becomes and what he is willing to pay to prove it. Seems unlikely criminal stuff will happen.

The NBA commish has been given much power, hasn't he.

a reply to: beezzer
If you are not in the United States, it has nothing to do with thin skin, people do not want to go back to 1940's era mentality, if you are in Europe, can you fathom what would happen if someone threw bananas onto a football field or basketball court, like they do at soccer games and scream epithets at non white players, there would be a riot, so this tells you where you might be living has a totally different measure of skin thickness, or either the majority mindset allows that despicable behavior to continue unpunished.

a reply to: roadgravel
Yes he does, it is bittersweet because you would think we can move past these things, but all it takes is an idiot, there are no colors of an idiot and trust me I have no problem pointing them out.

a reply to: totallackey

Coming from a league that does its very best to promote the "thug life," in every shape and form...

To the contrary, theyve actually done their best to remove it from the game. Hence the dress code, conduct codes, etc.

Coming from a league that suspended one of its very best players for a period of only two years (covering it up under the guise of retirement) for gambling on basketball games and, as a result, members of his own family threatened and his father getting killed for failing to pay the gambling debt...

Jordan was never suspended.

originally posted by: jrod
Yes racism still exists.

I do not support what he said, however I support free speech.

The NBA has a double standard. Had a black owner said the same thing about white people, that owner would not be fined nor barred and it would not be a sensational story.

There are no black majority owners in the nba.
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a reply to: KawRider9

While I don't agree with the owner, I hope you're right. This guy needs to sue these idiots for everything they've got. It's obviously he's not racist as there's not many racists that are OK with their half-black girlfriends sleeping with black people. Secondly, this was a private phone call SHE recorded.

Although I think the guy is an ass overall and I've never liked him, I don't like the way the NBA has handled this. I find that more of an insult than anything else.

Way too often i have experienced that when a black man talks about white people, it is emancipation/freedom of speech.
When a white man talks about black people it is racism!

I am not racist, i am white, I actually am insanely attracted to black women, yet the fact that im white would disgust most black people to the point they want nothing to do with me or anyone like me! i say this from personal experience!

I feel that racism is a disease on both sides of the spectrum!

You mean the league that makes you dress up as a player to travel? That has removed and sort of real contact on the court? I am guessing you have not watched a NBA game in a couple of decades.

As for the fine and ban? It is a private organization and can do what it wants. They guy is a racist moron and has been for a long time. It is only because he has money that it took this long for the chickens to come home to rooste.

sportsillustrated.cnn.com... this is what i found from sports illustrated of note the clippers owner is notorious for lawsuits (sue happy to use a term) and seems to not care weather he wins or looses at least statisticly

on the "archivist" who recorded it i guess she is involved in a seperate lawsuit with him for allegedly embezzling money from him to the tune of 1.8 million(put billion by mistake as that is sterlings estimated net worth )
from above link

Step 1 for NBA: Confirming the authenticity of the recording The league's first step is to confirm that the recording is in fact of Sterling and was not doctored in any way. This is an important step because the league has a fiduciary duty to conduct its investigations fairly and consistent with internal rules of procedure. If Sterling were to later sue the NBA, the league would want to establish that it responded responsibly to the allegations before taking any corrective action. In a statement released to TMZ, Clippers president Andy Roeser raises the possibility the recording may have been altered and emphasizes Stiviano "is the defendant in a lawsuit brought by the Sterling family alleging that she embezzled more than $1.8 million..." Confirming the authenticity of the recording could prove difficult. The original recording is presumably in the possession of TMZ. The NBA, as a private business, has no subpoena power to force TMZ or any other entity to turn it over. TMZ may be reluctant to share the original recording, especially if it was obtained on the condition that it would not be shared. TMZ may also be reluctant to share the recording because the recording itself could be unlawful. Under California penal law, it is a crime to intentionally record a confidential conversation without the consent of the person or persons being recorded. This type of eavesdropping also empowers victims of the unlawful recording to sue for money damages. TMZ's own exposure to liability is far less than the person or persons who made the recording. TMZ is a media company with broad First Amendment rights, especially on matters that are newsworthy. Still, media companies can be sued for publication of private facts, and Sterling, an attorney by trade, could consider legal action. TAYLOR: Time for Silver to do Stern's dirty work with Sterling Without possession of the original recording, the NBA would attempt to confirm the authenticity of the version of the recording that has been made available on TMZ.com. A voice recognition specialist who can compare Sterling's voice with that of the male on the recording would likely be used. The NBA would also want audio specialists to ensure there are no unusual breaks or pauses in the recording that would suggest the placement of words had been altered. Step 2: Interview Sterling and compile evidence If the NBA confirms that the recording is of Sterling and has not been doctored, it would ask him to meet as soon as possible with Silver and the NBA's top lawyer, Rick Buchanan. They would ask Sterling questions ranging from why he made racist remarks to whether his attitudes about race have in any way impacted the Clippers business model. The NBA's primary interest is ensuring that no team conducts itself in ways that violates discrimination laws, whether it be in the hiring and retention of team staff to the sales of tickets and merchandise. Also, federal and state civil rights laws prohibit privately owned businesses that offer entertainment from discriminating on the basis of race. At this point, there is no reason to believe that the Clippers as a team discriminate on the basis of race. Along those lines, Sterling's personal views about African-Americans and even African-Americans at Clippers games do not prove that his business acts in racist ways. It is worth noting, however, that in former Clippers general manager Elgin Baylor's original wrongful termination lawsuit against the team, he claimed he was treated worse by the team because of his race. The racism claim was dropped from Baylor's case and a jury would later side for the Clippers. Sterling, as an NBA owner, cannot as a practical matter be uncooperative with the NBA. He is obligated to comply with league investigations. The franchise agreement between NBA team owners and the NBA makes clear that owners will follow the league's constitution and bylaw Read More: sportsillustrated.cnn.com...

list goes on to make a few more points but i figured i quoted enough.while hes done in the nba i dont think he plans on going quietly and as it seems he will get all of the money from the eventual sale of his team it appears win win for him to draw this out as long as possible and let the lawyers fight it out (and make a killing in the process) lol i think the only way it could get more chaotic is if he tries to sell the team to the kkk or some other nonsense but if he did that i guess it would at least settle the racism issue once and for all

and just one one more random tangent from the link does no one think its odd they cant even find out how old this guy(Sterling) is? they seem to be confused as to if he is 80 or 81 .either way good time to be a lawyer in ca

www.inflexwetrust.com... more fun for the lawyers his wife of 50 years is suing his mistress already (before this all happened evidently)

This is such a messy and disgusting situation. SMH. More audio was released yesterday of Donald Sterling and his racist comments to his ex-girlfriend, but did you know that he’s been married for 50 years?! AND his wife is currently suing his mistress?! Yes, the woman that he’s having that horrible conversation with on the tapes. This guy sickens me. Hit the jump for details… GameTimeGirl Via RadarOnline: Sterling, 80, now embroiled in a controversy over racist comment, has been openly dating Stiviano, 38, for almost four years, and his wife, according to a lawsuit shes filed against the mistress, is simply “a married woman seeking to protect and recover community property in her individual capacity.” According to the lawsuit, Donald Sterling has used their community funds to lavish a multiple of gifts on Stiviano, who has five aliases. According to the Los Angeles Times, those gifts include $1.8 million for the purchase of an apartment in downtown L.A., $240,000 in living expenses, a Ferrari, two Bentleys and a Range Rover!

why is it every time something like this happens the only people that make out like bandits are the lawyers

My final statement on this ....

- The NBA is a private organization so they can do what they want.
- The owner agreed to the rules ahead of time so he's stuck obeying them.
- It was a private conversation so it shouldn't matter .. but the NBA is making it matter.
- The guy is a racist moron. It's stupid to be. But he's allowed.
- His icky fluffy-bunni girlfriend just hit paydirt. And she egged him on to get it.
- I expect to see a whole lotta' copy cat type issues come up. This will be the new way that business owners and others are gotten rid of by the competition and by those who have personal grudges.

/OUT

originally posted by: Auricom
Secondly, this was a private phone call SHE recorded.

Not that it makes any difference, but it wasn't a phone call. Listen to the extended recording. She gets him some juice.
deadspin.com...

Donald Sterling has used their community funds to lavish a multiple of gifts on Stiviano, who has five aliases. According to the Los Angeles Times, those gifts include $1.8 million for the purchase of an apartment in downtown L.A., $240,000 in living expenses, a Ferrari, two Bentleys and a Range Rover!

Hope she is happy with that stuff because I suspect the goodies are going to end.

a reply to: amazing

Or do you think all black people are thugs?

It appears you think just as Sir Charles..."This is a black league."

I disagree with Charles. On a lot of things.

And where did I say thugs were strictly black?

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic

originally posted by: Auricom
Secondly, this was a private phone call SHE recorded.

Not that it makes any difference, but it wasn't a phone call. Listen to the extended recording. She gets him some juice.

As long as he knows it was recorded she committed no crime, if criminal action is what was meant. If he didn't, oops.