The Mark: .................... Will Become "Not Optional"

if it is a sign of the apocalypse
why should christains be opposed to this then?

if anything they should just let it happen.

that way there can be the second coming and everything after that.

like a band-aid tear it off already and get it over with.. seriously I'm sick of these blokes waiting for the apocalypse and then trying to stop the apocalypse every time they think they see some fufillment of prophecy.

That has been done already. Marine researchers used to radio tag Salmon. These fish would normally eat gravel to use as ballast. So it was easy enough to create a radio transmitter and casing that was no different from the pebbles they would normally eat. They would use a radio antennae to locate the Salmon. Normally it was in a stream, river or lake, but on occasions they would find one traveling down the motorway at 60mph, or somehow located in a lodge kitchen on a country estate.

I personally believe they will move beyond injectable tags, and move towards some kind of injectable nano-capsules (lipid casing, metal interior) which would go into the bloodstream and then a laser would allow these capsules to burst and form into flexible electronic circuitry inside the skin.

All this really is is more doom-porn. So what if they make us take a chip at some point? Not only will people take it, but they will ask for it and line up for it.

And for those of you who are Christians, continuing to cry that this is all prophecy coming true won't make a difference. There are millions who know the prophecies about the so-called "Beast, AntiChrist, whatever", and yet when they see the very events they heard about in Sunday school as kids from teachers trying to scare them into followign JEEZUUSS, they explain them away and ignore them, because living as my own god and ruler of my own destiny is much more desirable and plausible.

When the "mark" becomes mandatory, there will be a whole list of reasons why this isn't really the prophecy, but just a natural development in an ever increasing police state.

Wouldn't it be better, as a believer hoping to sincerely convert someone to your cause, to live like your Teacher did and quit worrying about all the doom-porn out there? I mean, He did not talk about it all that much (the end of the age), and had quite a lot to say about the effectiveness of loving your neighbor instead.

Just my two cents.

a reply to: Bilk22


I will never get an implant. Never.

How does a credit card impede your freedom of movement or a cellphone?

originally posted by: NonsensicalUserName
if it is a sign of the apocalypse
why should christains be opposed to this then?

if anything they should just let it happen.

that way there can be the second coming and everything after that.

like a band-aid tear it off already and get it over with.. seriously I'm sick of these blokes waiting for the apocalypse and then trying to stop the apocalypse every time they think they see some fufillment of prophecy.

Exactly whom are you referring to? Most Christians as well as any other religion that believes in God, knows they do not control the apocalypse. So what exactly are you bashing Christians about? Was this thread a chance for you to get one more hit in on the people whom claim to follow Christ? To put them down and criticize them because they believe differently than you? Lemme guess, you believe in NOTHING and you need no one but you, right?

You know what I am sick of? People that post an irrelevant opinion that is completely off topic in a decent thread just to see what they have written, posted somewhere.....anywhere! There are places for you on ATS such as the "RANT" or chit chat which i am sure is much more to your liking. So unless you have something to add that is valuable even if it is a differing opinion, Go yell somewhere else!

Pax

a reply to: VirusGuard

What ever is wrong has nothing to do with NWO. The worlds tribal right down to your neighbourhood level. Techocrates can pursue as hard as they want the NWO rfid thing but it aint gonna happen unless people accept it willingly.

Once the ACA is widely accepted, there will be some sort of false flag pandemic. Whether the virus is a real threat or not, the media will scare the masses to their local FEMA vaccination centers, where we will all be given this chip secretly.

If not secretly, there will be a day when this RFID chip will claim to monitor all levels of health, heart rate, blood test, oxygen levels, EVERYTHING. Then the Orwellian nightmare will come into light.

Even on the news today there is wide speculation of a fat tax, where obese people will have to pay more due to the added cost to the healthcare system. This can all be monitored by blood glucose levels. The same can happen for drug testing, alcohol levels, and even nicotine levels can be measured and collected by the government.

The question still remains if they will incorporate our currency into these RFID chips. With the uprising of crypto-currency like Bit Coin, Lite Coin and even the Doge Coin, the possibility is there.

Like any tactic the government uses, we will mostly be scared into this system by some ominous threat. The USD will collapse, there is no doubt in that, and the common man will be left behind. It will be a "Chip Yourself or Corpse Yourself" situation, and we will face the inevitability of being tagged and monitored like the sheeple we are.

a reply to: NonsensicalUserName

Christians have a moral responsibility to tell people that the babylon system they are in is satanic and enslaving and can lead to loss of their soul, as it is designed to do, using people' vanity, pride, lust, etc to destroy them.

read: The Two Babylons, by A. Hislop
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then watch: "Joseph Atwater debunked", "Zeitgeist debunked" and "Ancient Aliens debunked" to see how you are being lied to.

then look to actual scholarship on the topic of Jesus Christ:

YT: Lee Strobel - The Case for the Resurrection
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YT: The Bible Is True! ~ The New Evidence That Demands A Verdict
www.youtube.com...
YT: Walter Veith (13) Battle of the Bibles /Total Onslaught
www.youtube.com...
youtube: The Resurrection Argument That Changed a Generation of Scholars - Gary Habermas at UCSB youtu.be...
YT: The Forbidden Book - History of The English Bible (Documentary Film)
www.youtube.com...

a close study of occultism, especially former occultists and satanists is also edifying, if you care about the truth and why Christians actually do what they do. Keep in mind that there are satanists/occultists riddled throughout the churches, both dumbing them down and providing poor examples.

a 1599 Geneva Bible might also help.

a reply to: oneupShadow

interesting scenario, but I think it will have to be a bit more voluntary than slipping it into the chemtrails as nano or into a vax…

an interesting testimony on this is Ken Peters prophetic visions. He saw much of the current system decades ago, in vision… and he saw that it was going to be a form of tattoo back when almost no one had tats…

YT: I Saw the Tribulation - Ken Peters (Best Video of End Time Prophecies)
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a reply to: Everlastingknowitall

good question: what's the big deal?

consider all of the intelligence of the design here: fibonacci sequences, sacred geometry, DNA complexity, etc…
there is a good chance that there is an intelligent Designer who created all of this and YOU, with a PURPOSE.

We are not robots, we are free will beings create, like any creation made w love, to glorify our Creator. Once free will is abrogated with a controlling/enslaving tech that monitors and controls your vitals: heart rate, chemical balance, thoughts… you will be of no use to the Creator. You will have made a choice to serve babylon and its god, satan.

There is a good chance that the "chipping" will be some kind of very sophisticated high-tech tattoo that removes all that is left of your free will. The Bible says those who take it will suffer illnesses and desire to die, but will be unable to.

The Bible says: "ye are gods…but ye will die like men…"

Jesus Christ is your salvation and promise of eternal life.

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originally posted by: stirling
In fact the next step is to co relate the data and predict crime Before it occurs....no #...
The near future will see people being charged and convicted before they commit the crime...this is real people...

I had similar thoughts when alongside Obama's plan to reduce gun violence ("Now is the Time") the Brain Scan Initiative was announced. This was back in April of '13 I believe.

No chip in me or my family either. By posting this, I realize that I will be tracked, hunted down and chipped against my will under sedation and restraint.

Isnt the mark of the beast accepting your own gain over the prejudice of others.
For example the government saying you must join us and our ways or be thrown in with those they oppose?
Specifically if you disagree but join anyway for self preservation of gain.

Societies / Mans beast. Looking after number 1 at the cost of others.
Joining them is accepting the mark of the beast.

The actual mark or thing that identifies you are with them is irrelevant.

The article contains a huge inaccuracy:

Embedded in every one of those phones is an RFID chip that can track our every movement via GPS or cell tower triangulation

Cell phones do not contain RFID chips.

RFID chips cannot be tracked by GPS.

Cell phones do not have a powerful enough transmitter to send signals to GPS satellites.

The only real thing is the cell tower triangulation, and that is valid only when the mobile device is moved between two cell towers. If the device does not move, it cannot be triangulated.

Judging from the above, the fear that we will all be forced to take a chip is illogical, and judging from the current sociopolitical environment, it's also improbable.

I still don't understand why people fret more over the actual mark rather than the significance. As I mention its the prophecies relating to this are more about control & acceptance rather than compassion and defiance.

They suggest you to back God rather than gain.

originally posted by: Asktheanimals
We haven't been truly free since a century ago when you were born and given a name by your parents and that was who you were. You didn't have a social security number, bank account numbers, licenses for this and permits for that. You did business on a handshake and that was good enough bond. We've been sliding down this slope for a long time to where our given names no longer matter, were just numbers to business and government alike. We have become statistics instead of individuals, consumers instead of creators. We have willingly joined in our own enslavement and now one cannot "opt out" and still live any sort of quality life in this society.

Might as well take it to the extreme until everyone realizes just how horrible this created matrix truly is. It's the only way to get everyone to finally reject it.

Agree with everything you wrote. I seem to remember, even as a little girl, knowing that our social security numbers were the first, in a way, of the "mark."

I was in chat the other night and a member who is a hypnotist chimed in with the notion of "tacit consent."
Tacit, meaning, understood, yet unspoken….

Then I was reading a thread the other day, and someone was questioning how easily our "reality" (or perceptions of that are changed), and one of the replies was…."Just a mouseclick away."

These two things combined set me back a few….but, at least, if there are still unknowing here, they are forewarned….
The problem I see in this, though, is the simple pursuit of knowledge, itself, seems to have become a kind of "tacit consent" to the price deployed upon your head for seeking it, to begin with. When none can survive, nor hope to understand the nature of their existence without knowledge, and the pursuit of that goes along with it…
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If this is the mark it is attached to THE SUNDAY LAW. The chip is the red herring. It is the mandated recognition that the 1st day of the week has become the sanctified day of rest where mans law replaces The Most High's designation of the 7th being the day of rest. I do not doubt the chip is essential in it becoming law and enforced though. I just see it as a red herring.