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Originally posted by Kano
The Laws of your country do not outlaw homosexuality, they expressly permit people to make their own choices about lifestyle. Like it or not, Homosexuality is acceptable by Law in your country.
Its just as ignorant as those who don't want evolution to be taught in schools.
Hmm this sounds like intolorance of intolorance if you ask me....discrimination knows NO bounds. Schools shouldnt teach "gay sensativity" if theyre not going to teach creationism alongside evolution...
Not wanting children to learn tolerance for others just because your religious beliefs don't think we should tolerate others is bad luck. Its just as ignorant as those who don't want evolution to be taught in schools.
Originally posted by CazMedia
Schools shouldnt teach "gay sensativity" if theyre not going to teach creationism alongside evolution...
SOME special interest minority groups get tohave their ideologies taught but some dont? Who is deciding this?
Why is it wrong for any parent to teach boundaries, morals, or other forms of what is and is not acceptable behaivior? Even if this means they will learn to "not tolorate"something. (i expect my kids to learn things that are intolorable, like murder or sex crimes for example, AND i would enforce it, meaning not tolorate this from them.)
Intolorance and hate are NOT the same things....i can disagree (be intolorant) with your politics, religion, sexuality, or anything, and that does not mean i HATE you or wish you harm or repression....
It does mean that I can not wish to see it promoted however, and be active in doing things to either keep the "promotions" even with others, or support promotion of my agenda.
Ultimatly, a society has the RIGHT to set up its cultural norms, including deciding that NOT promoting an ideology is the course of action. (usually thru democratic means, but ANY governmental form qualifies, its just that democracy seems the fairest to the masses.)
Originally posted by Kano
Keep quoting ed, maybe I can find some Dr Seuss and quote back, it would be as relevant.
This is not teaching kids to be gay, or love gays. It is teaching them not to hate gays. That it isn't OK to bash gays or abuse gays. How is that a bad thing?
Originally posted by Thomas Crowne
Very simple, Kano, we do not teach our children to hate homosexuals to begin with.
That is a very nice thought, very naive, but that isn't what this is about. Your thought is exactly what they want to you to think.
Originally posted by edsinger
ONCE AND FOR ALL,
IT IS THE TEACHING OF THE IDEA THAT HOMOSEXUALITY IS ACCEPTABLE AND NOTHING WRONG WITH THE BEHAVIOR THAT OFFENDS US.
Originally posted by jupiter869
Originally posted by Amethyst
I'm intolerant of sin. How's that?
Your intolerance and HATRED is the biggest sin. How sad you teach your children to HATE. Thats not good, you should know that.
Originally posted by Amethyst
Oh, BTW, in case someone missed it here...humans are not animals. Forget the THEORY of evolution--that's a crock.
So it doesn't matter what animals do. Humans have no good excuse to act like animals.
Originally posted by LostSailor
Well, I guess your thought process works for you.
I for one will never compare myself to animals. We have something they don't.
Conciousness.
I have nothing against homosexuality, but If religious values can't be tought at schools. Homosexual tolerance shouldn't be tought either.
The parents should be teaching both. It's their decision. Not the public school systems to rasie their children how they see fit.
I'm sorry if I don't teach my kids about homosexual lifestyle (I dont have any yet BTW.. kids that is) but the fact is I want Grandchildren some day. If for some reason however my child or children adopt a homosexual lifestyle... I won't crucify them for it. I really don't think it will happpen anyways because my children will be raised in religious environment. (private schools, church, etc.)
That doesn't mean I need homosexual tolerance training BTW.
Public schools should be focusing on the basics... nothing else.
[edit on 29-11-2004 by LostSailor]
Originally posted by Amethyst
Forget the THEORY of evolution--that's a crock.
Originally posted by ubermunche
I hate to break it to you LostSailor but I went to a religious school and was raised in a religious environment. Certainly not a whiff of tolerence training from either my family or the teachers (openly ranted about queers) nor the other kids, (merciless bullying of any kid deemed even remotely sissy), thank God for the ability to hide what I was from them but apart from that all a religious environment achieved was making the inevitable a far more painful drawn out process than it needed to be (inevitable meaning if you are made gay you're going to be gay). I'm glad you wouldn't crucify your kids that means there's hope for you yet, my Mum used all the old arguments being trotted out here and it wasn't until one of her kids was at risk of intolerence that she started realising how important that and respect and acceptence of others is.
Originally posted by edsinger
If administrators of Kentucky's Boyd County school district can't find a way to force all students to attend sexual orientation and gender identity "tolerance training," the American Civil Liberties Union is threatening to take them to court � again.
Ten months ago, the district settled a lawsuit with the ACLU over the right of a student group, the Gay-Straight Alliance, to meet on campus. The year-long litigation strained relations in the conservative northeast portion of the state.[...]
The agreement stipulated all would attend "mandatory anti-harassment workshops," including the viewing of an hour-long "training" video covering sexual orientation and gender identity issues for middle and high school students.