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Originally posted by OttsAgain we fall into the Bible, and even though Leviticus (among other books) says that "lying with a man as with a woman" is abominable, it also prescribes the ways in which you can sell your daughter into slavery, and directs you to smite your neighbors for various transgressions.
It's about opening their minds to every kind of ideas, so they can expand their minds.
Originally posted by edsinger
You act as if Church's teach Christians to go beat the # out of them and that is further from the truth than you could possibly know. They teach us to love them but do not fail to point out the fact that they live in sin and can be forgiven, but they must understand that it is sin in the eyes of the Creator.
You are so predictable, you calling me a sinner? Yup, your right I am. I recognize it also and I try not to sin as best I can but the flesh is weak but I never deny that I sin.
As for the war, well we should have let the Nazi's kill all the Jews even the gay ones as we can not justify war under Gods command?
Hypocrites? How so? When did I say I wasn't a sinner? When did I say something is not a sin to suit my own agenda?
Originally posted by edsinger
And where do I advocate this? I respect them but do not condone their acts. I do not make fun of them I pity them and want to the sin no more, I do not insult them by being truthful with them, their kids? Wait if they are ...nevermind.
Originally posted by jupiter869
Do you think that maybe the real reason parents dont want their children to be taught tolerance is because the children will realize how bigoted and untolerant their parents are?
Originally posted by Amethyst
Simply put, you should not harass ANYONE.
And the ACLU's definition of "harassment" does not apply. Calling something like it is is not harassment, as the ACLU would have you believe.
Originally posted by Amethyst
I'm intolerant of sin. How's that?
Originally posted by edsinger
So lets go over this one more time, Old Testement out ok?
NEW TESTAMENT - LAW IS NO LONGER - FOREGIVENESS COMES TO ALL
Originally posted by Amethyst
Nope--I just don't want my child to be indoctrinated with this crap. I plan on instilling moral values in my child, and I will NOT allow these ultra-liberals to undermine that!
I'm intolerant of sin. How's that?
And please stop throwing the term "bigot" around. That gets so old and I think by now everyone knows it's just mind games.
Originally posted by LeckyThat wasn't my point to label you as a sinner but to maybe worry about your own "sins" instead of everyone else's. Tolerating homosexuals IS NOT A SIN!
Originally posted by LeckyThing is you don't get very far when you argue about what God wants according to the Bible...since it's full of contradictions.
Originally posted by LeckyYou say you don't hate homosexuals but their actions...yet you have the audacity to compare it to beastiality and pedophillia. How can I make this more personal so you can understand how that translates to others...
Originally posted by Lecky(BTW sorry to any homosexuals who were offended by comparing them to Bush...was just trying to find a way for Ed to see how offensive his comparing homosexuality to pedophillia could be percieved by others.)
Originally posted by FredT Let me remind you of this: Even the Devil can quote scripture to his own end.
Originally posted by KanoThis is not teaching kids to be gay, or love gays. It is teaching them not to hate gays. That it isn't OK to bash gays or abuse gays. How is that a bad thing?
Originally posted by Amethyst
Nope--I just don't want my child to be indoctrinated with this crap.
I plan on instilling moral values in my child, and I will NOT allow these ultra-liberals to undermine that!
And please stop throwing the term "bigot" around. That gets so old and I think by now everyone knows it's just mind games.
Originally posted by edsinger
ONCE AND FOR ALL,
IT IS THE TEACHING OF THE IDEA THAT HOMOSEXUALITY IS ACCEPTABLE AND NOTHING WRONG WITH THE BEHAVIOR THAT OFFENDS US.
This teaching is not the job of the schools and Christians do not teach hate to their kids, it is this same argument that the homosexuals bring forth every time and it deliberately misses the point.
[edit on 29-11-2004 by edsinger]
Originally posted by edsinger
IT IS THE TEACHING OF THE IDEA THAT HOMOSEXUALITY IS ACCEPTABLE AND NOTHING WRONG WITH THE BEHAVIOR THAT OFFENDS US.