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Originally posted by marg6043
This thread is misleading, the video on "tolerance" is not enforcing "children" to become gay, we have enough hate crimes and we need to stop and that is the end of it. Edsinger I guess you go the reaction you wanted you want to get an agenda on gay bashing and you got your hart desires.Shame on you.
Originally posted by edsinger
No marg, I am just pointing out that this agenda should not be forced upon my children. To teach that sin is tolerable and should not be frowned upon and normal is wrong. The state has no reason to force my child to watch this. If a cult, sacrificed dogs and ate them and wanted to show that it was OK and children should be tolerant of this, should the kids be forced to watch it in the name of diversity? This is not a gay bashing thread, would you consider it OK for a movie to be shown about Christianity and how it deals with homosexuality? I would bet not and yet what is being done here is OK?
Originally posted by parrhesia
That first article you linked....
It seem to be associating HIV/AIDS with homosexuality; as if it doesn't happen to heterosexuals. That's hardly the case,
Originally posted by dgtempe
Ed, it turns out the video is about "tolerance" in many areas. Not just viewing a homosexual flick.
I should have read this closer. I am not against the school teaching children about tolerance. I think they should have done it 100 years ago.
My bad for not having read the article for myself and basing an answer on the misleading title of this thread.
Originally posted by Garon
Here is where the question "Why is it ok to push our own agenda on your kids?" comes into play. Just because they are yours, you can force your own agenda upon them? Without giving them the chance to form their own opinions? If that is the case, you're just as bad as the people you're speaking out against.
Originally posted by GaronThis was a gay bashing thread the moment you clicked post when you claimed a "homosexual agenda."
Originally posted by GaronAs for forcing people to view a film about Christianity's view on gays...as long as it isn't shown in a school or on state property. I couldn't care less. Religion and State do not mix. It is ILLEGAL.
Originally posted by marg6043
Originally posted by Mynaeris
Marg: I have a question for you - when you see the screen names Edsinger and Grady philpott do you have to disagree automatically?
No only when they use misleading threads to encourage gay bashing.
And you are right is the parents duty to teach their children at home.
But do you think is ok for parents to tell their children that gays are sick and dirty and that they don't have a place in society?
Then when it comes to that somebody has to bring the tolerance as an issue, the subject is broader than some may want to give it credit.
Hate crimes should not be tolerated because of the believe of some.
Originally posted by edsinger
No, it is the state forcing a film on my children that teaches that sin is acceptable and morally OK in this country.
Originally posted by edsinger
Actually it confuses the # out of me to see the ACLU take up for Christians when they do, but it is very RARE.
Originally posted by edsingerSo teaching morals decided by the state is ok?
edsinger
As a Christian it is our faith that tells us to make the offenders aware of their sin, not kill them, or discriminate against them. Love them and teach them them the Good News. They can be forgieven and change the life of sin in which they live.
Notice the "were", that means that people can change their hearts!
So we are to ignore our Lord's teachings for the sake of tolerance? The Church at Ephesus was being told that not accepting or tolerating sin is pleasing in Gods eyes. But notice it does not say 'stone' them or kill them.
Originally posted by IAF101
Originally posted by parrhesia
That first article you linked....
It seem to be associating HIV/AIDS with homosexuality; as if it doesn't happen to heterosexuals. That's hardly the case,
I have a survey which shows HIV cases are rising among gays more than they are with straight people! washingtontimes.com...
sorry that this is beside the point of this thread!
[edit on 28-11-2004 by IAF101]
Originally posted by parrhesia
Maybe so, I'll look at the link in a moment... but it's really misleading to represent HIV/AIDS as infections that ravage gays only, which was the impression I got from the article. It seemed to imply that if you're gay, and have gay sex, you'll die of AIDS.
Originally posted by IAF101
I have a survey which shows HIV cases are rising among gays more than they are with straight people! washingtontimes.com...
sorry that this is beside the point of this thread!
The highest-risk group is men who have sex with men, representing 42 percent of new HIV cases. Men and women infected through heterosexual relations are the second-highest risk group, accounting for 33 percent of new HIV cases. Intravenous drug users are third, comprising 25 percent of new cases.
Originally posted by Lecky
Really? From what I've read it's teaching tolerance with homosexuals, not the perks of being gay. You are acting like if children see this video they will start having homosexual tendencies.
Originally posted by Lecky
Oh you poor Christians Spreading your intolerance around the world in Jesus' name. (Thank God, a lot of christians know better)
Originally posted by Lecky
Hmm...since when did tolerance for others go against Christianity?
Originally posted by LeckyLOL! Yes Ed...whenever I read one of your posts I am overcome with love and understanding.
Notice the "were", that means that people can change their hearts!
Originally posted by LeckyThese tapes aren't being aired in Sunday schools...Please take all your Bible gobbledygook and keep it where it belongs While you are at it...please stop using Jesus to promote bigotry kthx!
Originally posted by Lecky
Hey Edsinger...
How do you feel about gay hate crimes? Does it even bother you? If you would remove your head from whitey christian lala land for one second you would see that it's a rising epidemic...
You totally miss the whole point on why these tapes are being aired in the first place.
Originally posted by Otts
1) What's normal? What the majority does and you do not. In that sense, homosexuality is a minority phenomenon, so it isn't normal. Is it natural? Well, I can tell you this - most people I've talked to say that homosexuals will often contemplate suicide rather than "come out of the closet". It's never an easy choice to make - you risk losing contact with your parents and some friends, and in some cases have your career put in jeopardy. So if it's a choice, it's a pretty masochistic one.