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Originally posted by cashlink
Zappafan1 Homosexuals are not in to Beastuality YOU have your Facts wrong!!
And the Percentage of GAYS in the USA is not 3%.
It is a known fact it is 10% not just a small few as you say!
I am gay and ill let you know right now, your remarks are insulting to me,and every one eles that is gay!
Infact the only people I ever heard that where in Beastuality were straight!
You really need help
Originally posted by zappafan1
"....I'll ask again... How would you people that support this idea feel if your tax money went to promote religious toleration at school?
It is happening already. many schools have classes on Islam; but have a class on Cristianity, and there's hell to pay.
Originally posted by zappafan1
Would you provide links as to where you got the 10% figure?
4% was the result of the latest estimates in America, and includes those who changed from homosexual to straight (normal).
Originally posted by cashlink
The same low percentage believe in beastiality. Do you want the schools to teach your kids about beastuality in elementary school?
First of all "you" say the word ( The same low percentage belive in beastiality.)
You mean gay people who eles are you refering to.
Originally posted by cashlink
First of all "you" say the word ( The same low percentage belive in beastiality.)
You mean gay people who eles are you refering to.
I am glad their teaching about gay people in their schools nothing wrong in learning the truth about gay people, and this will reduce the hate againce gays.
The teaching about gays should be in all schools by now.
The only reson its not, is because certain politician in this Counrty who are "homophobic" keep it out of the schools.
Yes, even if some of these good politician wanted to get laws pass for schools to learn about homosexuals, they won't.
Originally posted by zappafan1
REPLY: Read this again: "About 3% percent of people in America are homosexual, or think they are. The same low percentage believe in beastiality." Notice I said "Amricans", not homosexuals.
It shouldn't be introduced until high school
As of yet we don't know a "truth" about homosexuals ( the true term).
There are no homosexual civil rights.
It is merely a way for groups to have things go there way through the courts when they would never succeed through voting.
It shouldn't be up to politicians at all, it should be up to the parents who have kids in the schools.
"Alfred C. Kinsey had a secret. The Indiana University zoologist and "father of the sexual revolution" almost single-handedly redefined the sexual mores of everyday Americans. The problem was, he had to lie to do it. The weight of this point must not be underestimated. The science that launched the sexual revolution has been used for the past 50 years to sway court decisions, pass legislation, introduce sex education into our schools, and even push for a redefinition of marriage. Kinseyism was the very foundation of this effort. If his science was flawed — or worse yet, an outright deception — then our culture's attitudes about sex are not just wrong morally but scientifically as well.
Kinsey claimed, for instance, that 10 percent of men between the ages of 16 and 55 were homosexual. Yet in one of the most thorough nationwide surveys on male sexual behavior ever conducted, scientists at Battelle Human Affairs Research Centers in Seattle found that men who considered themselves exclusively homosexual accounted for only 1 percent of the population. In 1993, Time magazine reported, "Recent surveys from France, Britain, Canada, Norway and Denmark all point to numbers lower than 10 percent and tend to come out in the 1 to 4 percent range." The incidence of homosexuality among adults is actually "between 1 and 3 percent;" says University of Delaware sociology and criminal justice professor Joel Best, author of Damned Lies and Statistics. Best observes, however, that gay and lesbian activists prefer to use Kinsey's long-discredited one-in-ten figure "because it suggests that homosexuals are a substantial minority group, roughly equal in number to African Americans — too large to be ignored."
Nobody has ever changed from homosexual to heterosexual, so if the estimate you're referring to included that nonsensical concept, it is highly suspect.
"My literature review contradicts the policies of major mental health organizations because it suggests that sexual orientation, once thought to be an unchanging sexual trait, is actually quite flexible for many people, changing as a result of therapy for some, ministry for others and spontaneously for still others."
From the following link:
[link] www.narth.com... [/link]
all of this is still off topic, but I'm just responding and adding to the debate.
[edit on 26-6-2006 by zappafan1]
[edit on 26-6-2006 by zappafan1]
"There is a fundamental difference between bestiality and homosexuality, in that the latter involves participation only by consenting adults. (The exceptions to that can be condemned on the same basis as heterosexual pederasty, and should be.) In many cases, bestiality amounts to animal cruelty."
REPLY: It IS relevant in the context that schools on the left coast, as mentioned earlier, have books on homosexuals in American history. If one abnormality can be used for a book, why not others? If Peter Singer had his way, I'm sure there would be books on that, too.
Although I don't agree with beastiality, who's to say it's cruelty?
I don't agree with "hate speech" in any area, as it amounts to "hate thought"; read as "1984". It also adds a third tier to our legal system.
I also don't agree with the laws pertaining to who someone hires, as it is nothing more than over-arching government control of private enterprise. It also places possible great cost upon the employer. I've linked to the cost to society/taxpayers (health care) either here or in another thread, and it far exceeds that of smoking. I can re-link if you'd like.
I can't reply to two posts at once; Sorry.
Originally posted by zappafan1
You might not think the links a reliable source
Kinsey claimed, for instance, that 10 percent of men between the ages of 16 and 55 were homosexual. Yet in one of the most thorough nationwide surveys on male sexual behavior ever conducted, scientists at Battelle Human Affairs Research Centers in Seattle found that men who considered themselves exclusively homosexual accounted for only 1 percent of the population.
I see no reason why straights can become homosexuals why it couldn't happen the other way. Homosexuality can be a learned trait, as happens often in prison, but many of those return to being straight (or bisexual) upon release.
Originally posted by zappafan1
It IS relevant in the context that schools on the left coast, as mentioned earlier, have books on homosexuals in American history. If one abnormality can be used for a book, why not others?
I also don't agree with the laws pertaining to who someone hires
I've linked to the cost to society/taxpayers (health care) either here or in another thread, and it far exceeds that of smoking. I can re-link if you'd like.
Capitalism is the un-equal distribution of wealth according to cunning, ruthlessness, and luck;
Communism is the equal distribution of moonshine by imagination."
"Liberalism is the art of standing outside a prison and telling the inmates to open the door."
Originally posted by zappafan1
Originally posted by cashlink
I find this thred discusting and the post who posted this should be band from here.
Another way of exspessing HATRED againce GAYS!!!! SHAME ON YOU!!!
So....... no free speech for you, because you don't agree with it? Should we start burning books, too, if you don't agree with them?
It's not hatred at all, merely being discriminating which, even considering all the PC crap out there, is still a good thing. And, sorry, there is no "right" to not be offended.
About 3% percent of people in America are homosexual, or think they are. The same low percentage believe in beastiality. Do you want the schools to teach your kids about beastuality in elementary school?
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No Two step forward , That is Kinsey report and his opinion and thats a FACT!!!! and been bisexual is also being homosexual a man have sex with a man IS doing a homosexual act! call it what you want.
Originally posted by Two Steps Forward
Cashlink:
Kinsey found that 10% of the male population was either gay or bi. That means 10% minus however many of those were bi, were gay.
What do you think, are there more men who are exclusively gay than bisexual, or the other way around? I would say the other way around, most likely. Either way, though, the number that are exclusively gay is less than 10%. If more men are bi than gay, then the number that are exclusively gay is less than 5%.
That's not my opinion. It's fact.
Originally posted by cashlink
No Two step forward , That is Kinsey report and his opinion and thats a FACT!!!!
and been bisexual is also being homosexual
Originally posted by cashlink
Heterosexuals are the ones into beastuality