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reply posted on 18-1-2006 @ 06:29 PM by zappafan1
The protein issue I mentioned....

Mothers' genetic skew linked to gay sons
www.newscientist.com...

Also:
Put simply, Wilson and Rahman suspect that some male foetuses absorb low amounts of testosterone in certain parts of the brain; full absorption is needed for full masculinisation. “In a foetus which has a genetic predisposition to be gay, these receptors are not as effective at soaking up testosterone. The result is that this slightly insensitive part of the brain follows the default development route, which is female.”



reply posted on 20-1-2006 @ 03:45 PM by zappafan1
"How many gay guys do you know? On actual first-name terms."

REPLY: Irrelevant to the issue, but to answer, maybe 7.

".... Homosexuality is not a lifestyle choice."

REPLY: What don't you understand? ..... other than the very small amount of those as mentioned in the article about the brain protein, there's NO evidence that support it being gene based." After ten years they stopped looking for the "gene" that causes it, although some still say it's the cause.

".... And what about the cost to the national economy caused by sex-workers who contract HIV....?

REPLY: With all of the precaitions, that doesn't happen often, but it only ADDS to the costs...

".... intra-venous drug users who contract HIV, medical personnel who contract HIV?"

REPLY: Again, minimal compared to the % of that caused by homo's, and again, it adds to the cocts provided in the links.

".... How about quoting the figures for the other victims of HIV? Or would that interfere with your rant?"

REPLY: Facts and figures equates to a "rant?" Again, those would increase the costs to society above that mentioned in the links.

".... Oh, well, take them away and give them to hetero parents, whose kids never have any kinds of difficulties... "

REPLY: Wrong, and irrelevant.

".... Oh my God. Rape! Murder! Get them, kill them. 'Cause heterosexual men never rape or murder children, do they?"

REPLY: Geez... talk about rants. I only provided information, and I never said heteros don't rape and murder.


reply posted on 16-2-2006 @ 12:39 PM by zappafan1
Originally posted by parrhesia:
".... That's true, of course; but it may not be as effective unless the children can see at least insight into what these children are feeling. Sensitivity training may be more effective if the children have insight into how a "fat kid" is feeling, or how someone feels when they've been discriminated against based on their race, or their religion., or their parents sexual orientation."

REPLY: There will always be bullies and those who make fun of others, for whatever reason. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger. The time spent by schools in this crap reduces the time needed to teach kids what they NEED to know to survive and prosper. Insulating kids from admonishment or harassment does not prepare them for the real world.

This is the same thing that occurs when kids are taught Moral Relativity... we saw the result in Columbine.....


Used in isolation and subjectively, that's exactly what facts and figures are, especially when they are used in isolation to back up an argument that is entirely subjective.

example: the per captia percentage of money spent on "black" health in Australia and the percentage of the Australian population that is indigenous.

When used as a stand alone figure it's easy to argue that that much money should never be spent onsuch a small minority. But numbers alone ignore the truth of the situation. And people who rely solely on them to make their case are only demonstrating how shallow they are.

HowlrunnerIV:


".... Used in isolation and subjectively, that's exactly what facts and figures are, especially when they are used in isolation to back up an argument that is entirely subjective."
".... When used as a stand alone figure it's easy to argue that that much money should never be spent onsuch a small minority. But numbers alone ignore the truth of the situation. And people who rely solely on them to make their case are only demonstrating how shallow they are."


REPLY: Facts and figures relate directly to statistics.... what do you propose we make informed judgements upon... feelings? Using current proveable date and statisdtics is being shallow???

".... What don't you understand? It is not a choice. The reason I asked the first question was an attempt to see how big your disconnect to this is. You know maybe 7 gay guys and yet you still claim it's a choice."

REPLY: So, show me where it's been proven it IS choice.. after I've shown and linked to data proving otherwise.

".... So without gays there would be no HIV/AIDS or its attendant costs to worry about...if that's what you're really saying then..."

REPLY: I did not say or imply that.

".... Your continued use of that word is becoming increasingly tiresome and tiring. I wonder, will you be offended if I begin greeting you with the words "Hey there, redneck hick."

REPLY: So... I prefer to use the correct term.. the one used BEFORE changes made to the dictionary by maybe 3% of the population.
No, I wouldn't be offended.. you can use what terms you wish, preferrably based on insight and knowledge gained from a meaningful interaction to better know my values, thoughts and personality.

".... You show your heterosexuality off all the time, what's the difference?"

REPLY: heterosexuals don't "show off" what comes naturally... heterosexuals don't choose to be heterosexual.... that's the difference.
The main point being that 3% of the population is trying to force their preferences down the throats (no pun intended) of the majority of the population, and to make changes to the morality of our culture, through the use of our taxpayer dollars, and the media backs them up with T.V. shows and movies like Humpback Mountain..... I guess they used that title because "Blazing Saddles" was already used.....

As previously mentioned, homosexuality is already being referenced in pre-school, which is just plain wrong.


reply posted on 16-2-2006 @ 02:18 PM by DevinS
Actually being gay is MORE then what hole you stick it in. Gay men are attracted to men, they aren't attracted to women. Just like as I, a straight man, find a nice rack and bootylicous body to be attractive, a gay guy might find a 12pack and buns of steel on a guy attractive, or other features on a male. I don' find that attractive as I'm not gay, just as a gay guy won't find a woman with 36c and nice booty to be attractive, as being gay or lesbian is more then just what hole you stick it in.

Also, Gays are the New Black people!(Does gay hand thing you see in stereotype movies and shows) Insteads of putting on your bedsheets and hoods to go lynch blacks it's now Gays to hate! All you racists are soooo behind the times, hating blacks is soooo passe, hate the gays, at least your government agrees with you!

Gays shouldn't represent US

"One might have that lifestyle, but if one promotes it as acceptable behavior… I don’t think they should be a representative of this country." - Sen. Nickles, quoted in Jun 15, 98 Americans for Truth About Homosexuality press release.

"Robert Black, the [Texas] state [Republican] party spokesman, called them [Log Cabin] a 'hate group' and compared them to the Ku Klux Klan." [This occurred after Log cabin Republicans (a gay republican group) tried to attend the Texas Republican State convention.] - NY Daily News 6/24/98

Gays are "sickening" and "intellectually dishonest"

"These people are intellectually dishonest in just about everything they do or say,".... He added, "They start by pretending that it is just another form of love. It's sickening." - Tuesday June 30 7:49 AM EDT, Variety

Gays cause Nazism, communism

" 'Hitler and his supporters were Satanists and homosexuals. That's just a true statement.' He added, 'The notion that is involved in homosexuality, the unbridled sort of satisfaction of human passions' leads to 'totalitarianism,' 'Nazism,' and 'communism.' " - People for the American Way, "Hostile Climate," 1997, p.26.

What I like about this one is Hitler and the Nazis, HATE GAYS!!!! Along with Stalin and Mao and Castro, so this guy is completely wrong!!!!
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