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Canadian DOD guy: There WILL BE WW3, this is not doom porn

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posted on Apr, 25 2014 @ 04:19 PM
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I believe Obama, Putin, Merkel, etc., all have an agenda to get out of debt. The dollar is going to collapse soon due to the QE injections, the EU will fall apart due to the economies of all the countries debt, and china is beginning to unravel. WWW3 is just a debt relief for the monetary system. They know it, they planned for it, and they are going to implement it. We just have to watch and prepare.




posted on Apr, 25 2014 @ 04:20 PM
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originally posted by: Fylgje
Lets just hope that if America & Russia get into a war, that the regime in Washington DC and their families will be bombed by Russia the same way that they bomb other people("terrorists") and their families. It's probably the only way to get a regime change in America, sadly. No one wants war, especially of this magnitude, AND FOR WHAT? What is it that the Zionists in DC, willing to risk WW3 for in Ukraine? What is it??


The US hasn't said it will go to war over Ukraine neither has NATO so I'm not sure where you get that from?

That's why there approach along with the UN has always been diplomatic with sanctions, which appear to be working as planned



posted on Apr, 25 2014 @ 04:36 PM
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What i see happening is that Iran was backed up by russia and China. Now Russia has a problems in Ukraine.
If tensions escalates between Iran & Israel well... Russia is busy now. There's stll China/Japan/N Korea. How easy would it be to make them trow rocks at each other ?
I'm not saying it's orchestrated but frankly, it should be child's play to destabilize the whole region there in order to ensure that Iran is left alone.



posted on Apr, 25 2014 @ 05:38 PM
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originally posted by: projectbane
a reply to: RadiationAndCancer

Finally a sensible post!! Most of what you said is spot on.

The media is making Russia out to be the big bad wolf. Most Americans have ZERO idea of what Ukraine has meant to the Russians and what role it played in the the soviet Union.

Most US citizens listen to their meida outlets and take the word of them like christian take the word of the Bible.

This whole situation is wrong. China WILL back Russia hands down when it comes to it and so will iran!!

It is yet to be determined how Israel will react after all the groveling from the US, Israel is a country that CAN NOT be trusted. They side with the power they think will win while sweet talking the other side and laying misleading niceties.

Great Britain can't afford a war right now. Cameron virtually has said so in the last budgetary meeting with his cabinet. Being forced into war is something that Great Britain would rather not do!!

The US are taking some very risky and bold stances publicly which is quite different from their previous approaches to international conflict. Normally they try and play it down.

I think WW3 could be a go within 6 months unless something steps in to divert this mess.






How could people not of watched the conference when Putin Signed the document, And gave his speech about the history of Cremea.


If Cremea want's to be part of Russia, because of its passed and that there are many ethnic russians and russian speaking people there.

Putin is very clear about about answering the pleas of Russian speaking people.



posted on Apr, 25 2014 @ 05:47 PM
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sorry, wrong post

edit on 25-4-2014 by Golden Rule because: mistaken forum



posted on Apr, 25 2014 @ 06:36 PM
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Looks like Albert Pike was right all along.

All hail Lucifer our Lord and King, let us rejoice together brother Masons, for we are entering into a New Dawn of the New World!



posted on Apr, 25 2014 @ 07:25 PM
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Arktos1:

There has never been, and will never be any love lost between China and Russia. Siding with the rest of the planet against Russia would in fact be a huge power move for China, thrusting them further into a position of global ascendance & dependence.


What utter nonsense! You actually think that communist China would not side with Russia, even though they are hardly two pages away from each other ideologically? The West is considered by both to be out of control. They know Western citizens lost their self-sovereign power decades ago. Russia and China are supporting each other through currency deals that omit the use of the American dollar...why do you think there is a crisis in the Ukraine in the first place, surely not because you believe the West loves the Ukrainians?


Putin can puff out his bear fur all he likes, he broke the rules...


I'm sorry, what rules did Putin break? He has acted legitimately and within international law, so what other rules are there? Do you mean the Western rules of not toeing the line to American hegemony...do you mean those rules? It is very sad to see posters clearly showing an absence of discernment regarding the Ukraine, a region where news clarity is equally and just as conspicuously absent!



posted on Apr, 25 2014 @ 07:40 PM
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hiel harper



posted on Apr, 25 2014 @ 08:20 PM
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The only way the U.S. will get directly militarily involved in a huge way, is if Poland or the rest of the NATO nations that share a border with Ukraine or Russia look like they will be invaded. If Putin masses forces on any NATO nations border and starts antics then Russia will face an onslaught via NATO. Otherwise I think a lot of advisers will teach the Ukrainians how to fight with lethality and bleed Russia till they quit.



posted on Apr, 25 2014 @ 09:43 PM
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originally posted by: elysiumfire


I'm sorry, what rules did Putin break? He has acted legitimately and within international law, so what other rules are there? Do you mean the Western rules of not toeing the line to American hegemony...do you mean those rules?





What utter nonsense! You actually think that communist China would not side with Russia, even though they are hardly two pages away from each other ideologically? The West is considered by both to be out of control. They know Western citizens lost their self-sovereign power decades ago. Russia and China are supporting each other through currency deals that omit the use of the American dollar...why do you think there is a crisis in the Ukraine in the first place, surely not because you believe the West loves the Ukrainians?


Well China did blank Russia at the UN on Crimea

What makes you think China wouldn't step on its most powerful neighbours head ?

If China has the ambition to be worlds No1 Russia is next in line for her

Keep your enemies closer etc etc



posted on Apr, 25 2014 @ 09:52 PM
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originally posted by: andr3w68
What you have said here has worried me since the whole thing started. Yet it seems more people care about Game of Thrones than do our earth.


Yes, and that and geoengineering is primarily why it may happen just the way OP describes…..as it's happened before, and will again, till mankind masters himself. Just my opinion, and doesn't count for much, and I'm just typing a second line so not to give a redundant one liner.
tetra



posted on Apr, 25 2014 @ 10:03 PM
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originally posted by: Soloprotocol
Storm in a tea cup....we've been threatened with Nuclear war since 46....and nothing has came of it....Why would that be...MAD


Hope you are correct but it seems Russians are not going to back down from Ukraine. Wait and see.

NATO stops were it is and that solves all the problems. No harm done yet.



posted on Apr, 25 2014 @ 10:34 PM
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a reply to: RadiationAndCancer

it's Actually DND, not DOD for Canada.. Weaker Military? We got a great Military, one of the Top Special Operation Forces. We got a good SIGINT branch, same as NSA, not as fully advanced, but we got a new building which will be a huge improvement!

I'm an Anaylst also, worked with DND for 2 years in INT field. I highly doubt America would start WW3 even if Russia invades Ukraine..Ukraine isn't part of NATO..



posted on Apr, 25 2014 @ 11:49 PM
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a reply to: cayrichard

You are right on. Everything you said is true. I can even find some links to back all of this up.

The history of reserve currencies...and how they never last more than 70-100 years:

www.zerohedge.com...

Always, after a country takes on the reserve status it is eventually run down, the elites taking all the money and degrading the country, then there is a war with both sides funded by the same banks (and the reconstruction afterwards). Those who have the most money, make the rules...those who MAKE the money, control the controllers.

The current downward spiral of America started in 1971 when Nixon took us off the gold standard, and then with the deals he made with the Chinese. Check out this post, especially the charts he presents (his entire blog is incredible, BTW):

blog.redefininggod.com...

The Brics (China, Russia, India, Brazil, Iran etc.) are being built up at this moment, with an extreme amount of gold being shipped to these nations - and the US is the biggest exporter to China!

www.zerohedge.com...

Yes, we are being set up for a fall. The question is: is there anything we can do about it??



posted on Apr, 26 2014 @ 12:30 AM
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a reply to: RadiationAndCancer the u.s. military is buying Russian military helicopters and has been for a while. So I'm quite skeptical.



posted on Apr, 26 2014 @ 12:42 AM
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I guess I'm not understanding why it's okay with everyone that the US ignores a treaty it has with Ukraine. If it's not enforced, the US will look weak to its allies. It's a rock and a hard place scenario but you can't ignore treaties.



posted on Apr, 26 2014 @ 01:10 AM
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a reply to: projectbane
good reply...great analogy



posted on Apr, 26 2014 @ 01:22 AM
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What I have to say I have noticed is that there have been, how do I say this, purposeful uprisings in Ukraine supported by the West - I think both the money trails and the leaked audio files show as much - so the situation seems manufactured in such a way to go out of control.

AT the moment, the Ukraine military is fulfilling their promise to hit rebel strongholds across the region, and Russia said that if that kind of thing happened, they would intervene - everyone seems to be sticking to their promises in this one, so I'm guessing Russia intervenes here shortly.



posted on Apr, 26 2014 @ 03:37 AM
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originally posted by: live2beknown
a reply to: RadiationAndCancer



I'm an Anaylst also, worked with DND for 2 years in INT field. I highly doubt America would start WW3 even if Russia invades Ukraine..Ukraine isn't part of NATO..



after the US spending 6 billion ukraine voted nay to the eu:

Ukraine fiasco marks end of the EU’s imperial dream
The EU, dedicated to eliminating national identity, has finally run up against the rock of a national interest that will not give way
www.telegraph.co.uk...

for not voting the way they were told to vote, ukraine must be punished...
so they get NAZIS....and idf
and the harper regime supports that, which is the biggest insult to ww2 vets and canadaians, there could possible be and is the exact opposite of what Canada supposedly stands for



posted on Apr, 26 2014 @ 06:25 AM
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a reply to: Danbones

Pretty obvious from amount of stars and flags that majority of ATS understands the picture.

Government shills working on ATS are fighting an uphill battle, HOWEVER having said that, none of it matters in the end.

In case of WW3 government actions would kill most of us anyway while they hide cowardly in underground bases with all the luxury tax money can buy you.

Nothing done on ATS can change anything, unless million people march onto White-House, ain't nothing gonna change.





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