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The Completely Unofficial Ukraine Mud-Pit.

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posted on Apr, 24 2014 @ 08:55 PM
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a reply to: Xcathdra

Supporting US meddling in Ukraine is like if Russians supported Quebec Separatists.

I hope you got a really nice place in Argentina or Brazil when your masters finally start WW3

The realization that you are expendable and soon to be dead, will come when it is too late.

Russia is not weak Syria, or Afghanistan or Iraq, Or Iran

Russia will teach you monsters a lesson.




posted on Apr, 24 2014 @ 08:57 PM
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a reply to: RadiationAndCancer

The jealousy from some of the pro Russians have towards the west now that the world doesn't tremble when the Soviet Union wakes up is just sad.

Putin is running a first world country based on its population while using a 2nd world military doctrine coupled with 3rd world country propaganda.

Peddle your crazy somewhere else as Russian propaganda is not bought without intelligence in this area.


Russia is the one who invaded Ukraine.

Not the west.

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posted on Apr, 24 2014 @ 08:58 PM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra

I was not aware the US sent troops into Ukraine, resulting in destabilizing consequences.

oh... wait.. that was Russia.


You really should keep up with current information if you want to have credibility

NYT had to retract photos of Russians in Ukraine, because they are wrong.

WHEN RUSSIA ENTERS UKRAINE TO CLEAN YOUR HOUSE, you will know it,



posted on Apr, 24 2014 @ 09:00 PM
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a reply to: RadiationAndCancer

no they have not.

That's the difference between real news and Russian Propaganda. If Russia could justify its actions it would not have clamped down on all media and only allow government programs.

But by all means, make your threats and make North Korea proud in that all you have is threats.


By the way - Russia has already invaded Ukraine. Even Putin has stated that when he admitted Green soldiers with no insignias are Russian soldiers.


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posted on Apr, 24 2014 @ 09:01 PM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra
Russia is the one who invaded Ukraine.

Not the west.


Don't you realize

when you ignore evidence of US financed NGOs to foment right sector and neo-nazis to replace the government, you only expose yourself.

US IS THE INVADER



posted on Apr, 24 2014 @ 09:02 PM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra
no they have not.



LLLLOOOOLLLLL

Page A9 of NYT

do you want me to provide you with linky

itsy bitsy linky



posted on Apr, 24 2014 @ 09:04 PM
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a reply to: Xcathdra

here read this, this is how WW3 is going to start, maybe even few months from now

www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Apr, 24 2014 @ 09:08 PM
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Im good thanks...

If WWIII starts it will be the end of Russia.


Why bother supplying a link to your source? The Pro Russians never bothered with it before so why start now?


As for war - I hope the Russian people can remove the madman at the controls of their country before he kills us all.
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posted on Apr, 24 2014 @ 10:12 PM
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Peddle your crazy somewhere else as Russian propaganda is not bought without intelligence in this area.


Well yes nice rant but no facts as usual but then again your comments about the Ukraine crisis not having anything to do with oil or gas gave the game away and you are as abusive as ever with your "Peddle your crazy somewhere" comments.

The sooner Russia does invade the Ukraine the better I say because someone needs to deal with the unelected nazi fascists and lets not forget Russia have at least two leaked recording that shows wrong doings by the west but I still maintain the possibility that this is a scam with Mr Putin and Obama trying to push oil prices up and expand the colossal $3bn a day that the USA is currently spending on "defense"

My with all the spending they have got to start a war with someone else the people back home might ask just what are they getting out of it all.

Europe does not need to be told who to fight or how it should spend more on defense by the USA or anyone else.



posted on Apr, 24 2014 @ 10:25 PM
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a reply to: VirusGuard

and yet nothing provided to support your opinion..

hardly surprising.



posted on Apr, 24 2014 @ 11:06 PM
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a reply to: Xcathdra

www.spiegel.de...

Even the German NPD are now growing strong and demanding weapons to continue their support for Ukraine crisis.



posted on Apr, 24 2014 @ 11:17 PM
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originally posted by: steaming
a reply to: Xcathdra

www.spiegel.de...

Even the German NPD are now growing strong and demanding weapons to continue their support for Ukraine crisis.


Which still does not make the entire government of Ukraine Nazis as some like to insinuate. Secondly as disgusting as I find a Nazi / Nazi type political party it says something about a country that allows that type political affiliation freedom. Something that occurs in Russia with only the Presidents Party.

Ironic really that while one can criticize the political parties the same cant be said for critics of the Russian Presidents party.

When you try to claim a moral high ground you should probably figure out what the view is going to look like once you claw your way to the top. You may very well only have a view of hypocrisy.


Knowing the law allows a nationalist-socialist political party is the only way I know of where the law will also allow counter political parties.


America isn't easy. America is advanced citizenship. You've gotta want it bad, 'cause it's gonna put up a fight. It's gonna say, "You want free speech? Let's see you acknowledge a man whose words make your blood boil, who's standing center stage and advocating at the top of his lungs that which you would spend a lifetime opposing at the top of yours." You want to claim this land as the land of the free? Then the symbol of your country cannot just be a flag. The symbol also has to be one of its citizens exercising his right to burn that flag in protest. Now show me that, defend that, celebrate that in your classrooms.

Then you can stand up and sing about the land of the free.





MAN
We've got about half a dozen American reporters in Moscow whose credentials
are pending.
Toby, this is like if they credentialed the Enquirer to cover the summit!

TOBY
If the Enquirer asked us, we'd credential them. Making sure the Enquirer
can write whatever
it wants is the only way I can be sure the New York Times is writing whatever
it wants.

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posted on Apr, 24 2014 @ 11:31 PM
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Putin is a scumbag...

Russia better just take what they stole and be happy.

If they keep pushing it...it will not end well for Vlad.



posted on Apr, 24 2014 @ 11:41 PM
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This event happened in the Ukraine 30 years ago en.wikipedia.org... .
The Ukraine needs a $ billion dollars to put a new dome on this reactor but with all the bloated chests about i can not see it happen



posted on Apr, 25 2014 @ 12:00 PM
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Were Russia to completely remove it's troops (little green men) from the Ukraine I would say let the Ukrainians fight it out for themselves with no involvement from anyone outside their own country.

Having Russian troops on the ground is an INVASION. IMO it is up to the USA to stop Russia from doing such things. Was it not Russia that was recently telling the USA that bad things would happen if we put boots on the ground in Syria?

Time to tell the Russians to pack up the little green men and go home, or else. No one wants a full blown shooting war between superpowers, not even Russia. That being said Russia is doing the exact thing they warned the USA not to do, just in a different country. The USA has lost it's nuts.



posted on Apr, 25 2014 @ 05:03 PM
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a reply to: Mamatus

The Russian general for the Ukraine area phoned his US counterpart. During that conversation the Russian general stated Ukraine had massed troops on the Russian border who are intent on causing sabotage.


The only thing missing from Russian narratives is "once upon a time".



posted on Apr, 25 2014 @ 05:32 PM
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a reply to: Mamatus
Not to be completely uncaring but having the Soviet Union reconstituted would be a boon for the MIC. The Cold War going gang busters, jobs created to supply defense, build up of the defense. The fifties over again with a strong middle class. New home construction, bomb shelters, survival training, dooms day movies again, rebuilding infrastructure and thousands of other things. Even though they were silly, dust off the duck and cover videos.

Entertaining C-Span coverage of Congressional necromancy of Joseph McCarthy red scare witch hunts. I wonder if they would attack Hollywood again?



posted on Apr, 25 2014 @ 06:25 PM
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a reply to: Bramble Iceshimmer

During the cold war both side - The US and Soviet Union - fully understood what would happen should war break out - MAD.

I fear that this concept is lost on most people today who did not live / born during the cold war. The mindset I see, including by some on this site, is that the use of a nuclear weapon will only affect the area the weapon explodes. They don't seem to comprehend the fact that the effects can cross borders.

I don't care if the cold war created jobs... I don't want to see a return to a time period where the clock always read 1 minute to midnight.



posted on Apr, 25 2014 @ 08:51 PM
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The Doomsday Clock has been set at five minutes to Midnight since 2012. I am not all that surprised that it has not moved as the clock is not a gauge designed to determine how close we are to WW3 but how close we are to Nuclear War.

M.A.D. (Mutually Assured Destruction) is designed to prevent an war from going nuclear. It is quite possible and sadly quite profitable, to fight a war without going nuclear. Only when faced with total destruction of their nations does M.A.D. works out to be a good idea.



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