NY TIMES- Cliven Bundy Is Racist

Yeah I don't think he's saying blacks should be slaves picking cotton... I don't think he's saying that is a good thing at all... No matter how bad it was then, if it is worse NOW then you ARE better of then, no? To take it to the extreme, imagine if we ended slavery and then shot all black people instead... It would be better being a slave no? At least you are alive and can fight another day...

But yeah the truth is we're all slaves now, okay we have a bit more freedom, we aren't spoken to the same or beaten quite as much... Yeah we have real nice slavemasters now, but slavemasters we have all the same! See you can say you make 20-30k a year working, but do you? No... no you do not! What about when you buy something? You're "taxed" stolen from... They demand a cut of yoir wages too. Then they want you to pay for having a home... There are a myriad of taxes which means at least 70% of your money is stolen! Which means you are given chicken feed and just given the ILLUSION that you earn a decent wage and are free...

But yeah he will forever be a racist now and anyone that touches the race subject will be racist too, including myself no doubt.

I hate all slavery, but swapping one for another is hardly the answer...

a reply to: anon72

originally posted by: anon72
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HOAX EXPOSED: Full Clip of Bundy’s Non-Racist, Pro-Black, Pro-Mexican, Anti-Government Remarks Vs. NYT's edit!

if you're going to whore your thread here- you can at least make the effort to add to the discussion.
Inter-thread spamming is rude and immature; and it is also a violation of the ATS T&C.

A lot of fact checking need be done round here.

Poster amazing
posted statistics about the different races on benefits. So recipients who are black make up 40%, but they are only 12.4% of the entire population of this country. That stat doesn't really support your purpose.

Poster Luciddream, you come across like a Government shill. Pigeonholing all of the people that agree with Bundy's cause, all the while complaining about him pigeonholing a race. The hypocrisy is comical.

As for the Racists, maybe they should cry out that they were born this way, like the LGBT community and try to become a protected class.

Racist babies?

originally posted by: Gozer
a reply to: ltinycdancerg

Me: NYtimes is irrelevant and biased, and only leftist care what they say and take them seriously. Like MSNBC.

Aside from that, more black babies were aborted last year in NY city than were born alive. I bet that was Bundy's fault too! Stupid racist! What does the New York Times have to say about that? I bet they talk about how good all those dead black fetuses are for the black community, vs live babies.

Who are the REAL racists? Those who would prefer more black abortions than live births, or those who would want every black child to make it to full term? Keep telling yourselves that the left isn't racist. lol. All their eugenic dreams are being realized in NY city, and sellouts like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton keep leading black people to believe, quite falsely, that Dems really care about them.

And Bundy is right about the black family unit. Even amid the horrors of slavery, the black families of that era, and into the 20th century, were tight and close knit, and looked out for each other. Now, 8 in 10 black fathers don't live in the same home as their children. The Dems love this, because they get to play daddy instead, and get votes in return for their handouts (and not just for blacks, but for ALL races)

Remember JFK? "Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country..."

Now? The Dem motto is "We're gonna give you more than they will! Vote for us!" (who cares if it's other people's money they're giving away, right?) GIMME GIMME GIMME!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cliven Bundy is an old man. He likely knows nothing of modern "sensitivities" where sticks and stones AND WORDS break bones, and likely would laugh at the prospect of it.

I guess we should all check with leftists first and have them do a PC screening before we find out if a rancher deserves to have rights or not. I guess I missed the part in the US Constitution that says only politically correct sheep deserve to have protection from an armed to the teeth govt paramilitary force.

That's a hell of an aside. Tell me, why do you think NYC has more black abortions than live births? No, never mind, you already basically did. Examine the source of these statistics. It took little time to track this down, what with all of the conservative websites crowing about it. The facts don't lie, but what do the statistics actually say?

That report claims that the abortions figures are limited to city residents. I'm not so sure I buy that. Consider that NYC is the largest city in the United States; it has a large number of abortion clinics. Every ethnicity has a higher reported abortion rate in New York City. For context, look at the statistics from New York State as a whole, rather than just New York City, from the same year:
Births
Spontaneous deaths
Abortions

So, in New York City, these are the statistics for non-hispanic blacks:
24,758 Births
3,446 Spontaneous deaths
31,328 Abortions

Compare it to New York State statistics (note: this includes NYC statistics):
36,905 Births
3,961 Spontaneous deaths
36,633 Abortions

Curious difference between the City and State, isn't it? If you look at the by county and ethnicity state data, the numbers - while close - don't quite agree. For reference, the national abortion ratio is 483 abortions per 1,000 live births for non-hispanic blacks. Rape produces a child at least 5% of the time, and 4 out of every 10 non-hispanic black women have been raped. While this doesn't entirely explain the numbers, you might see by this point that things can be more complicated.

The man said "negro" and "maybe they would have been better off picking cotton", live on TV. 'nuff said

Maybe we should look at both "versions" of the controversial video.

The "Short" version is 1:29 and the "Long" version is 3:13.

Both are on youtube by two different posters.

The transcripts are similar but not the same......

See if you can spot the "racist" parts, or if you think one version is more "racist", or if the long original is not so "racist", or if anything at all is "racist".

Maybe the MSMalarkey has made this a "racist" issue.

Video 1 - short, edited version & transcript ...

Transcript

0:00
the nato I want to tell you one more thing I know about the negroid
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when're when I go good go to Australia mark corporation
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and I would be reveal Government House in
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an inferno at Government House bid the door was usually over
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and but the only people with a kid
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and there's always at least a half a dozen people have known the port
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they did have nothing to do
0:28
they didn't have gotten for the kids to do billion mm
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young girl to do and because I'm they were
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basically arm government subsidy so now what do they do
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they abort third their young children they put a young man and you know
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because they never they never got a pic cotton and about 100 or they better open
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slaves
0:51
picking cotton am family line open dude bring
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already better off under government subsidy good
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thing know they did you know more freedom ago let's bring them
1:03
the headlamp family alive and they're happy that you could be in there baby
1:08
the one hand the men on and monitored
1:10
gonna be my girl on our
1:14
good returns
1:16
the mood among government my
1:19
did not bring them by who
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of

VIDEO: Cliven Bundy's Racist Remarks

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Video 2 - long version & transcript ...

Transcript


0:00
and so when I'm would testified to yet
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I with the Milwaukee variety I seem to be getting
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fire died in NY like
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the night payment ger
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German
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people are not happy people would bring to me don't have freedom
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thing and they didn't have a great quite a bit goodnight baby
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until now and we sure don't want to go back
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surely won't be colored people have to go back to that point we should or could
0:36
make you can people go back to that point
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good
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and we could make a difference right now by taken care of
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family bureaucracy and do it
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in a peaceful way my
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let me clear talking about to make do you think I know what happened
0:59
later I want to tell you one more thing I know about the neighborhood
1:03
when're when I go when go through lost big mark corporation
1:09
and I would be reveal Government House in
1:13
an intern at Government House bid the door was usually over
1:17
and but very older people with a kid
1:20
and there's always at least a half a dozen people have known the port
1:24
they did have nothing to do
1:28
they didn't have gotten for the kids to do ummm
1:31
young girls to do and because I'm they were
1:34
the basically arm government subsidy so now what do they do
1:39
they abort third their young children they put a young man in jail
1:44
because they never they never learned how to pick cotton and I'm open minded
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or they better open slaves
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picking cotton am family life and don't think or are they better off in a
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government subsidy
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good me know they did you know more freedom
2:01
only got less freedom the headlamp family
2:05
alive and they're happy that you can be unnerving the one hand the men on and
2:09
monitored
2:09
concrete Michael R
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car
2:14
good return on the move at all government my
2:19
did not bring them by
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now let me talk about managed by: you know I understand
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good to come over here against our Constitution because our group porn
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I
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but they're here I and their people
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and I worked beside decide to a lot of them
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don't tell me they don't word and don't tell me they don't pay taxes
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min and don't tell me they don't have better
2:50
family structures been most diverse white people when you see those making
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family
2:56
there together perfect thank you they're spending their time together
3:00
and I'll tell you in my way of thinking
3:03
there of a nice people I'm
3:06
and we need to have been people going to be rude
3:09
not not not come to a party on

Cliven Bundy (Full) Controversial Remarks April 19, 2014

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You Decide.