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originally posted by: Soloprotocol
originally posted by: stumason
a reply to: Maxatoria
An independent Scotland a member of NATO? I doubt it.. They have nothing to offer and wouldn't be able to (and do not wish to) meet the minimum Defence spending requirements.
We have nothing to offer???... other than some of the finest, hardest bastards in the Army...35% of the SAS have been Scots and that stat exists today....for a small nation of 5.5 million that tells it's own story of what we have to offer...maybe not to Westminster after Sept 18th, but to our own people...we will do just fine.
We Keep England, not the other way around.
originally posted by: criticalhit
originally posted by: Wirral Bagpuss
originally posted by: criticalhit
a reply to: Wirral Bagpuss
Why should Scotland reconsider? it's a win-win, it's not like the UK could sit back and just let Russian troops land in Scotland if there was a war, Govt is mainly about self governance of people... but when you share an Island Invasion is a whole other story... Likewise IF it came to blows of the Missile variety as a separate entity the Russians might likely in fact opt to not Nuke Scotland, that would be a case of "Great, free from one oppressive overlord just to fall prey to another" but you'd be alive and realistically Russia at 137 million population can't really physically maintain any kind of demographic dominance at a distance, it would remain Scotland.
I think if it came to the Big Bang and nukes are used then Scotland WILL be hit and hit hard. There is a nuclear sub base in Scotland and it is no secret that Glasgow, Edinburgh and Aberdeen would be nuked. Perhaps Inverness too. Scotland would be a nuclear wasteland. Scotland does not have it's own army, navy or air force and if it got independence would not be a member of NATO so there would be no legal reason to come to it's defence, although I am sure in reality the rest of the UK would. It would be the polite thing to do!
Well the British Govt would have no choice if it were a land invasion.
But... Scotland's own Govt could vote things like that off it's territory. And doesn't have to join Nato
I say basically make like Iceland... look, empires start wars, The Scots have never really been privy to such madness and when your a proud niche people the way to go is to continue not giving a good god damn who thinks they run the world. The reality... when a real war is said and done so far from Moscow what happens to your nation if your not all crazy about it is, they send "advisers" to make sure the news paper doesn't talk *** and publicly aside from it all tows the party line... on paper, beyond that it's still Scotland always has been always can be.. Unless of course your part of Great Britain and holding on to it's terror toys for them... with the "well if we go you go too" mentality of London... considering the last 1000 or so years have been spent periodically trying to be rid of London, I say... own Govt, take your toys with you. The Scots have never been globe troters
originally posted by: Dorrell
This is a BBC report. Never trust the BBC.
MOSCOW, April 24 (RIA Novosti) – Russian Tu-95MS “Bear” strategic bombers, accompanied by supersonic Mikoyan MiG-31 interceptors, have conducted test flights over neutral waters of the North Sea, a senior Air Force official told reporters Thursday.
"The flight route was over the neutral waters of the North Sea, along the Kola Peninsula. The aircraft have flown some 12,000 kilometers. The flight duration exceeded 16 hours," Col. Igor Klimov said.
originally posted by: VirusGuard
why is France building ships for Russia